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Obama triumphs, will be first black president

Associated Press

Published Wednesday, November 5, 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama swept to victory as the nation’s first black president Tuesday night in an electoral college landslide that overcame racial barriers as old as America itself.

The son of a black father from Kenya and a white mother from Kansas, the Democratic senator from Illinois sealed his historic triumph by defeating Republican Sen. John McCain in a string of wins in hard-fought battleground states — Ohio, Florida, Virginia and Iowa.

A huge crowd in Grant Park in Obama’s home town of Chicago erupted in jubilation at the news of his victory. Some wept.

McCain called his former rival to concede defeat — and the end of his own 10-year quest for the White House. “The American people have spoken, and spoken clearly,” McCain told disappointed supporters in Arizona.

Obama and his running mate, Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, will take their oaths of office as president and vice president on Jan. 20, 2009.

As the 44th president, Obama will move into the Oval Office as leader of a country that is almost certainly in recession, and fighting two long wars, one in Iraq, the other in Afghanistan.

The popular vote was close, but not the count in the Electoral College, where it mattered most.

There, Obama’s audacious decision to contest McCain in states that hadn’t gone Democratic in years paid rich dividends.

Obama has said his first order of presidential business will be to tackle the economy. He has also pledged to withdraw most U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months.

Fellow Democrats rode his coattails to larger majorities in both houses of Congress. They defeated incumbent Republicans and won open seats by turn.

The 47-year-old Illinois senator was little known just four years ago. A widely praised speech at the Democratic National Convention, delivered when he was merely a candidate for the Senate, changed that.

Overnight he became a sought-after surrogate campaigner, and he had scarcely settled into his Senate seat when he began preparing for his run for the White House.

A survey of voters leaving polling places on Tuesday showed the economy was by far the top Election Day issue. Six in 10 voters said so, and none of the other top issues — energy, Iraq, terrorism and health care — was picked by more than one in 10.

“May God bless whoever wins tonight,” President Bush told dinner guests at the White House, where his tenure runs out on Jan. 20.

The Democratic leaders of Congress celebrated in Washington.

“It is not a mandate for a party or ideology but a mandate for change,” said Senate Majority leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

Said Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California: “Tonight the American people have called for a new direction. They have called for change in America.”

Shortly after 11 p.m. in the East, The Associated Press count showed Obama with 338 electoral votes, well over the 270 needed for victory. McCain had 127 after winning states that comprised the normal Republican base.

The nationwide popular vote was remarkably close. Totals from 58 percent of the nation’s precincts showed Obama with 51 percent and McCain with 47.9.

Interviews with voters suggested that almost six in 10 women were backing Obama nationwide, while men leaned his way by a narrow margin. Just over half of whites supported McCain, giving him a slim advantage in a group that Bush carried overwhelmingly in 2004.

The results of the AP survey were based on a preliminary partial sample of nearly 10,000 voters in Election Day polls and in telephone interviews over the past week for early voters.

Democrats also acclaimed Senate successes by former Gov. Mark Warner in Virginia, Rep. Tom Udall in New Mexico and Rep. Mark Udall in Colorado. All won seats left open by Republican retirements.

In New Hampshire, former Gov. Jeanne Shaheen defeated Republican Sen. John Sununu in a rematch of their 2002 race, and Sen. Elizabeth Dole fell to Democrat Kay Hagan in North Carolina.

Democrats also looked for gains in the House. They defeated Republican incumbents Rep. Tom Feeney and Ric Keller in Florida, 22-year veteran Chris Shays in Connecticut and Rep. Robin Hayes in North Carolina.

At least two Democrats lost their seats. Rep. Kevin Mahoney fell after admitting to two extramarital affairs while serving his first term in Florida. In Louisiana, Democratic Rep. Don Cazayoux lost the seat he had won in a special election six months ago.

The resurgent Democrats also elected a governor in one of the nation’s traditional bellwether states when Missouri Attorney General Jay Nixon won his race.

The White House was the main prize of the night on which 35 Senate seats and all 435 House seats were at stake.

A dozen states elected governors, and ballots across the country were dotted with issues ranging from taxes to gay rights.

An estimated 187 million voters were registered, and in an indication of interest in the battle for the White House, 40 million or so had already voted as Election Day dawned.

Obama sought election as one of the youngest presidents, and one of the least experienced in national political affairs.

That wasn’t what set the Illinois senator apart, though — neither from his rivals nor from the other men who had served as president since the nation’s founding more than two centuries ago. A black man, he confronted a previously unbreakable barrier as he campaigned on twin themes of change and hope in uncertain times.

McCain, a prisoner of war during Vietnam, a generation older than his rival at 72, was making his second try for the White House, following his defeat in the battle for the GOP nomination in 2000.

A conservative, he stressed his maverick’s streak. And although a Republican, he did what he could to separate himself from an unpopular president.

For the most part, the two presidential candidates and their running mates, Biden and Republican Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, spent weeks campaigning in states that went for Bush four years ago.

McCain and Obama each won contested nominations — the Democrat outdistancing former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton — and promptly set out to claim the mantle of change.

Obama won Colorado, Nevada, California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Florida, Virginia, New Mexico, Iowa, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Rhode Island, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Maryland and New Jersey, as well as the District of Columbia.

McCain had Nebraska, Idaho, Mississippi, Texas, West Virginia, Utah, Arkansas, Kansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana, South Dakota and North Dakota.

Comments

Posted by gallen (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

thia is a sad day for america! may God keep a watch over us

Posted by alma (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 5:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pray for our nation.

Posted by jkelly32562 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Everyone knows that Bill Clinton was the first black president.

Posted by Thunderstick (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

1st half black president and 1st full socialist president.

Posted by turtle (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think America did speak clearly and Obama was not their choice as evidenced by the popular vote, yet again the electoral college determines the winner. I believe that system needs to be revamped because this is the third time a president has been put into office through electoral college but not win by the popular vote, at least the third time in the past twenty years.

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard on television last night he got 100% of the 18-29 black vote in North Carolina. I'm sure everyone of them just approved of his policies and it was just a big coincidence they were also black. I know they were following MLK's dream of being judging someone by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.

Posted by Deepthought (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree that it is a sad day for America. We have elected a president who is a Socialist. It should not shock any of us. We have been moving in this direction for years. Both political parties have contributed to the journey. I will continue to respect the office of the presidency, however, I have no respect for Obama. Congratulations to all of those who voted for him. Your victory may prove to be bittersweet.

Posted by Observer22 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The election of Ossama is not so much a preference for socialism as a rejection of Bush. Ossama won, not because he had a platform or ability but because he was unknown. If you have never done anything it is hard to have made a mistake. The hard part begins now as Ossama begins to organize his administration.
Every American president has stacked his cabinet with Americans and, in recent decades, a token African descendant. If Ossama stacks his cabinet with African descendants and a token American he will make Bush look like a genius.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I know you guys are mad and I voted Nader so you cant blame me.... however what are you guys talking about? Obama won in a landslide in popular vote... he won by atleast 1.8 million votes... and in electorial by almost 200... The people chose Obama... not my choice, i couldnt stand either one... but Obama actually won this election... altho i must say Clinton beat him in the primaries so if you could that then yes... Obama lost :P

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oops i was wrong on my math... according to MSNBC results... Obama won by more than 7 million votes... my bad!

Posted by ghost_of_christmas_past (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We survived 8 years of Clinton, and we survived 8 years of Bush.....we shall survive this also.

Posted by tellitlikeitis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As an American I am very disheartened by the comments that I have read this morning. All over the world, nations look to America as the beacon of hope, freedom, and prosperity. Our nation has and always will be the shinning light on a hill. That is a title that no other country has ever enjoyed.

Obama may not have been your choice for President, but he is the President-elect of the most prosperous place in the word. The only place in the world where you can be judged by the content of your character rather than the color of your skin; the only place where it is possible to start at the very bottom and make it to the top; the only place where your dissolution in your government is tolerated and expected.

Today, fellow Americans and Alabamians I encourage you to look beyond your self and see that this country faces grave obstacles and our government needs all of us to be awake at the wheel. Regardless of what party you associate yourself with, understand that our great democracy only works when we all are watching. Despite your disappointments in the outcome of the Presidential race, this is a great day for America! And a great day to be an American!!!

Posted by stickam (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well obama is not only black you know.....

Posted by jaxon8 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lets set the record straight. Obama is not black. According to his genealogy, he is only 6.875 per cent black. What all the dummies who voted for him need to know is that he is 100 per cent muslim. God have mercy on our nation for they know not what they do.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Observer22
Is this what you are trying to imply..."Every American president has stacked his cabinet with Whites and, in recent decades, a token Black descendant. If Ossama stacks his cabinet with Black descendants and a token White he will make Bush look like a genius"?

Posted by ghost_of_christmas_past (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can someone tell me which direction Mecca is in.....Will our currency now be changed to "In Allah We Trust"??? Yikes. (Gotta keep a sense of humor, we're not going to change what happened). ;)

Posted by thisiscomplicated (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

America is already at it's worse two wars people loosing their jobs mothers and fathers not able to feed their children and so many other important things that have happened to derail America so how can obama be the problem he just might be the solution.

Posted by bookworm (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The new Prsident of the United States is African American. You people just can't stand it. If John McCain would have won none of you would be making these comments now. Alma and Gallen, people have been praying for our nation. God is watching over our country. That's why we have Barack Obama as our new president. God doesn't make mistakes. You all are just use to the same thing. You just want to stick to the status quo. You don't want change but guess what...Change is here! Yes we can and yes we did. Get over it all ready. GOD IS GOOD!!!

Posted by hsbd4 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a question....why is it that when someone has one white parent and one black parent, they are considered African American?

Posted by OldSchoolPike3Worker (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey folks. You all know where I stand on the issues. If Obama tries to do all of the things that he campaigned to do, then I will voice my opposition all along the way. But as it stands right now, he may not have been my candidate, but he is going to be my president. I will not let any politician decide how my outlook is going to be. Let us remember to stay focused and stay positive. We all need to start working on 2010.

Posted by bglock2839 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

you know the sad thing about this election is you thought that he was good a what he did and that is holding a crowd,but to your ugly thoughts of a black man in the white house, you never thought it was going to get that far but if you belive in GOD then stop with the none sense because why you was in Prayer that is when you should have heard that silent voice god saying BARACK OBAMA will take lead of you all, remember the last will be first and first will be last well here it is do you remember the bible, and if your Pastor can't tell you this and he has not put it in the words of the Lord, then you need to visit my church and really hear some preaching, not talking as you al get ok GOD bless our BIGGGG United States Of America

Posted by ghost_of_christmas_past (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was wondering the same thing...I guess that question is up there with questions like, 'why are we here? 'what's the meaning of life?', etc., etc. But it is a darn good question.....

Posted by hsbd4 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Again...he is just as much white as he is black. So why is he being called black.

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Do you carry a glock to your church? I think maybe you should tote an English textbook also; your grammar is terrible.

Posted by hsbd4 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Showdown...you don't tote, you carry......don't worry about someone else's grammar.

Posted by ghost_of_christmas_past (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Still a darn good question, hsbd4.....As far as using the Bible to explain Obama's win, very ironic, since Obama was very disrespectful to the Bible and Christians, stating that the United States should not be ran on Biblical principals.

Posted by Goldenrod (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:06 a.m.

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Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@hsbd4
That is a good question. I don't know the answer though. I think it may have something to do with the fact that some have said that if your skin is not absolutely white, then you can't be white. I don't know!

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hsbd4,

From Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry: tote
Pronunciation: \ˈtōt\
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): tot·ed; tot·ing
Etymology: probably from an English-based creole; akin to Gullah & Krio tot to carry, of Bantu origin; akin to Kikongo -tota to pick up, Kimbundu -tuta to carry
Date: 1677
1 : to carry by hand : bear on the person : lug , pack
2 : haul , convey

I'll leave it up to you to look up the definition of dumbass.

Posted by bookworm (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To hsbd4: I know a biracial girl who considers herself white. I guess it's your prefernce.

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If Obama succeeds, he will be praised as a great African-American leader. If he fails, he will be labeled a Caucasian-American loser.

Posted by bythebook (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

God is already blessing America! Obama didn't just win with the African American votes, he won with the White American votes as well. There will always be Democrats and Republicans in our nation. When will we start being just Americans?

Posted by turtle (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who cares now? It's over, he's in whether anyone likes it or not. Personally I think Americans couldn't stand to see a woman in power in the White House and would rather have a man, regardless of race and that is what hurt McCain. I didn't like either "major" candidate anyway.

Posted by patriot (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Regardless of who you voted for we still live in the greatest country on Earth. I am not an Obama supporter, however the Office of President is much bigger than the man who occupies it. Obama does not share my Christian beliefs and values(pro life, etc...). However, he is the President-elect and I respect that. I hope everyone listened to McCain's concession speech. We could all learn alot from his humility. A man who served his country in the truest sense of the word. I also understand the joy that blacks must feel. This election was never about race for me, it was about issues. This election has shown me that I need to be more aware of what is going on in politics, whether it's on a federal or a local level. Don't take what the media spoon feeds you for the truth or even what the candidates tell you. Do your own research, get involved. Follow what your Representatives and Senators are doing and let them know they are accoutable to us. Be informed. Lastly, agree or disagree with the outcome, I applaud the men and women of the armed forces who are fighting for our right to vote and for us to be able to speak our minds as we are doing now in this forum.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My joy doesn't lie in the fact Obama is black. I didn't vote for him because he's black. I voted for him because I feel his plans for this country is what we need. It had nothing to do with the color of his skin.

Posted by ghost_of_christmas_past (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm waiting for the recount.....Nader '08!

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me exactly what his plans are (not just promises of doing "something") and how he plans to pay for them.

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And what plans are those Virtuous?

Posted by bglock2839 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

John McCain was running on his was stories not a good platform for no one
Barack has a health plan,put the taxes back on the wealthy,
pull the ladies,and men from Irac,over a time period of 3 years, better plan for students to attend a college of choice,and of course a new means of energy plan

Posted by tonydt0 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OMG,, please pray for our nation and troops ,,the world is going under ..please pray for us .thanks for all the comments., at least it is all over..

Posted by Jack_Bauer (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:29 a.m.

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Posted by RaisedNTroy (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let me start off by saying I was not an Obama supporter nor did I 100% back McCain. I do feel this country is in great need for a change, but I curious to know exactly how Obama plans on funding ALL the changes he promised. Also, HE IS NOT BLACK! He was born to a WHITE mother and a KENYAN father. I rememeber this same "black" talk when Tiger Woods won the PGA Tour. Black, White, Purple, Yellow, Green we need someone in charge to bring this country back to the safe, prosporus place it was years ago. If Obama can do that, fine DO IT! If not, step down admit you were just full of empty promises and be done with it! He has 4 years to prove himself and I actually hope that he does. If he does not, I hope the American people are not ignorant enough to vote simply on the color his skin "appears" to be. I find it hard to believe that a person can quote the Bible in their post and still say they voted on issues. The Bible also says, "Though Shall not Kill". Abortion is MURDER! God does know all before it happens, but if you remember a little story in the Bible pretaining to Adam and Eve, God gave us our own will and voting on the American President is our own will. We choose this and we shall prosper or suffer, either way we are the ones to blame. I will respect or President-elect but that does not mean I have to agree with him.

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And he is gonna pay for all of his proposed programs just by rolling back the tax cuts for those making over $250,000 a year? By the way, what insentive is a kid gonna have to bust his butt to become a doctor or lawyer or an entrepreneur if he knows he will just have to give back half of his pay to support those who do nothing?

Posted by ghost_of_christmas_past (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jack Bauer, you crack me up ;). By the way, give my regards to your wife/cousin ;)....You, my friend have what we all need now....a sense of humor.

Posted by patriot (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Finally a talk on issues. What specifically is his health plan? Put the taxes back on the wealthy? What do you consider wealthy and how much more do they need to pay? I am certainly not wealthy, I work hard, pay my own way, live within my means, my vehicle is 6 years old. Can't afford a new one because I'm putting my daughter through college. Almost 1/4 of my income goes to taxes. I feel that I already pay my fair share.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

His health care plan allows those who can't afford insurance to care for them and their families. We talk about how people use/abuse Medicaid and other funded programs. With this plan, there is no excuse for working families not to afford health care. His plan for health care will work if we as a people will stop totally depending on these programs and use them as an escape goat to sit around the house doing nothing. If we really want change, those who supported him will get up and get busy doing something to contribute.

His tax plan will work if we get up off our sorry behinds. I don't make $250K or more but rest assured if I continue furthering my education it won't be long. When I reach that amount and beyond, it will be because God has allowed me to be prosperous in such a way that I will be able to help those who are less fortunate. I will KNOW God has blessed me to be a blessing to others. I don't strive to be rich...I strive to be wealthy. With wealth comes responsibility and I pray I don't forget where I came from. It speaks about that in the Bible and we can not be so greedy that we forget about the poor. It also says it will be easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into heaven. (GREED and SELFISHNESS)

Obama and McCain has spoke about change. The only difference is Obama has a plan that is not as usual. McCain's plan is patterned by what has already been implemented and has not worked.

Obama and the American people can speak about change his entire term but if the American people don't get up and do something, it will not happen. We have to be willing to do something too. Those of us who have become comfortable on welfare need to wake up. Yes We Can. I was on welfare for 6 months after I had my first son but I was determined not to stay on it. I've been employed every since. From fast food, textiles, chicken plants, plastic...you name it, I've probably done it. But I have a dream to succeed and provide a promising future for me and my children. I am a single mother of four, but I will continue to strive for excellence. I now work for the State of Alabama (5 1/2 years). I started in one of the lowest paying classifications. I took a demotion from my previous job (chicken plant) because I knew there was opportunity for advancement. I have advanced and will continue to advance as long as I apply myself.

Obama's plan for change is for those who actually want something out of life and are willing to put forth the effort to make it happen. All we need is more people to have a mind to want more, that we can encourage others to dream of a better life for themselves that they will step out to a new level of thinking. We need each other. No one person can do it alone.

Posted by ridger1978 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've read a lot of good comments on here, both pro and con. I thought that I would add my two cents worth, (if opinions are still valued as much). First of all I did not support Obama, I just did not like him plain and simple. Being a white male in his 30's, some might call it racist, but I wouldn't have supported him had his face been white. His overall demeanor is strange to me, as well as his eyes. They say the eyes are the windows to the soul and if that is the case, his soul is hollow and that my friend, is scary.

Neither candidate really addressed the issues at hand other than to talk about "change". Ok, I'll vote for change, but what kind of change are you referring to? Is this change to be universal or for a select group?

Lastly, I would like to comment on some of the contradictions that I have heard from everyday people on the street. Within the same conversation I heard one person say that "Obama was elected not based on skin color, but on merits alone". Then the same person said "It is a historic day in America to have the first black president".? Now which one is it. As they say you can't have your cake and eat it too.

This world is in for a bad time I am afraid and it will only get worse, so I for one am getting prepared.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone believe that if Obama or McCain says, "Look, I do not agree with Abortion. It is murder and I will not stand for it in my country"...that it will decrease or even cease? No, I don't agree with Obama and his views about abortion and in fact it actually caused me to second guess my decision after I finally decided to vote for him. One sin is not bigger than another sin. To God, sin is sin.

Posted by Deliman (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama is no black man. I laugh at the people that voted for him just because he is black. How stupid can you be.
I just voted for the one I thought would keep us out of danger for the next four years and that was not Obama.
You know, Hillary even voted for McCain. She was hoping to move in the White House in four years.
Ya'll just enjoy life as I do, drawing my government check and sitting on my porch eating cathead biscuits.

Posted by ghost_of_christmas_past (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am and will always be conservative, but I must say, when the Republicans had the president and the congressional majority, they did nothing to further the Christian, conservative issues I hold dear. Makes me wonder, are we all being duped? Just wondering.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is an email that one of my co-workers sent me just now. Thought I'd share it.

On this historical Election Day I feel compelled to say something, write something about this great man that God has sent forth at this appointed time. When I look at the date I am reminded of what the numbers symbolize in the Bible.

The number 11 means - Number of judgment and disorder, substitution. This is so fitting for the times that we are in. Our nation, our world is in disarray and complete disorder and it is time for a substitution.

The number 4 is the number of an open door. The door has been opened, the path has been set for in ’08 (the number of new beginnings) a man has come forth.

In case you do not know in Judges 5:1 speaks of Deborah and a man named Barak. Deborah was a prophetess who sent for Barak whose name means lightning was the “commander” of the army that defeated the Canaanite armies led by Sisera, who for twenty years had oppressed the Israelites. God has a way of shedding some light and foreshadowing to let his people know what he holds in the balance. He sent a man of both races, whose name means lightning at a time when the nation is in disorder, to propel us into a NEW BEGINNING.

It seems as this election is nothing more than God's word, His will being fulfilled.

Posted by bookworm (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous, what an excellent comment!!!

Posted by patriot (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous, working families is the key word. There are too many who are not willing and I don't feel that I should pay their way or no more than I am paying now. Too many want something for nothing. The State of Hawaii's Universal Child Heath Care plan is a great example. They shut down after 7 months because people who could afford to pay their own insurance were enrolling in the state's plan. Regarding abortion, I can't compromise on that issue. Other issues, yes but not that one. I agree with ghost. I believe one of the reasons we lost the election was because they party has gotten away from it's conservative roots. McCain was more in line with the Democratic party than his own. The Democrats were sure not going to vote for him and it cost him conservatives.

Posted by patriot (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous, before you start spouting off Biblical references, you must also know that God gives us free will. Obama is not the second coming, he is a man, that is all. I can take any Bible scripture and turn it to my point of view.

Posted by ghost_of_christmas_past (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As a Christian and student of the Bible, I must say you are so right patriot. Obama belittled the Bible and Christianity in one of his speeches.....he twisted what was said in Lev., Deut., Sermon on the Mt., and Romans, and even commented that the book of Romans was some "obscure writing." Obama won because there was no real choice this time. I say shame on the Republican and Democratic parties....There were some good, and qualified people running in the primaries, but the parties backed who they wanted.

Posted by bookworm (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If McCain would have won none of these comments would be on here. The election is over so let it go. OBAMA '08

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@patriot
You're right. God gives us free will. I know Obama is not the second coming that's why I don't put my trust in him just because I voted for him. My trust truly lies in God. Whether or not Obama does what he has promised is irrelevant to the promises God has made to me. However, God does orchestrate and allows things to happen for a reason and some of those reasons we may never know. He said, "All things work together for the good, for them who love God and are called according to His purpose." I think that means that if He allows it to happen, good will come from it..somehow, someway. I think that things have been happening to get us back in line and to acknowledge who is actually in control. I could take any Bible scripture and turn it to my point of view just as you and others but I will only be fooling myself and doing more harm than good. Nothing should be added or taken away from scripture.

I agree with you that there are so many people who want something for nothing. We see it everyday. You make a very valid point that I have to be honest and say that I've never thought about those who just DON'T want to do anything and what it means for those of us who do. Shame on me? Hmmm...you just put something on my mind for today. Thanks for shedding light in a totally different aspect than what I've been seeing. That's really something to think about. I wonder why it is so, though?

Posted by countrygirl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How can anyone say that Obama being elected is God's will? What is coming of this country? I am just in awe of how so many americans who call themselves christains have voted for him. They want change they are sure going to get it! Let's see after he make all his "changes" if people are still shouting OBAMA 08.

Posted by countrygirl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe that God allowed this to happen not for a good reason but only because Americans have gotten so off track and not focused on God. He will take care of those who follow him but for the others he will not.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@countrygirl
I'm a Christian and I voted for Obama. The fact is that SOMEONE has to hold the office of presidency and he just so happened to be the candidate of my choice. But let the record show, my trust is not in Obama, it wasn't in Bush, it wasn't in Clinton...and so. I may have to go through a lot, as I have before this election, but as long as my faith lies in my Creator, I know for a fact I will be alright if I just hold on. How do I know? I'm still alive!

Are you also in awe of how many americans who call themselves christians who didn't vote for Obama seem to have given up hope on the United States because he was elected? What happened to all the dreams they had during the campaign? Are they not still their dreams? Just because the person you thought should be in office isn't, doesn't mean you don't have a voice and all hope is lost. Or did those christians put their trust and faith in a man instead of the one who created the man?

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There is nothing wrong with giving to the poor and elderly and the sick. But it should be a choice to do so. Does the bible say to taketh half from the rich and giveth to the poor? I thought that was Robin Hood?

Posted by tellitlikeitis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The comments that have been posted today are from a deep place of fear. I get that! These comments are painstaking, staggering and sobering. Although I support your right to articulate them, I respect them for what they are pure unadulterated fear!!!

My fellow Alabamians let’s reach beyond fear to find ways to deal with the real problems that plague our state and our country.

Let's see, in Alabama alone, we have the highest infant mortality rate among the fifty states; we are drastically behind in wages and earnings when compared with other states in our nation; around 30% of Alabama's children are born in poverty; We have a severe drought of jobs paying decent sums of money; Only 60% of our high school seniors graduate from high school! Just to name a few.

These problems are entirely too big for Alabamians to be committed to an us v/s them mentality. We MUST work together to find solutions! Democrats and Republicans; Young and Old; Black and White!! The object of our desires should be to leave this place better off than we found it!!

Maybe I am an idealist, but I believe we can solve these problems together!!!!

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think if God allowed this to happen in order for Americans to get back on track and put our focus back on Him, then that is a very good reason. Well, before I got saved, I was wild as all get out doing things I knew I didn't have any business doing. God wasn't even on my mind. But through HIS grace and mercy, He was patient with me and took care of me even in those times. I could be dead right now for some of the stupid things I've done.I thank Him for not turning His back on me like we as humans tend to do because we get tired of dealing with those who was acting the way I was.

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So God chose Obama. Now it all makes sense. So no matter what Obama believes in or how much money he takes from me or what happens to this country, I should just relax and be happy because it is all God's will. Got any cookies to go with that koolaid?

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Regis
LOL! :) No, I don't recall reading anything about taking half from the rich and giving it to the poor.

Does anybody actually think that anything that happens in this world catches God by surprise? No, it doesn't. He said He is Alpha and Omega. The Beginning and the Ending. The First and the Last. He knew on 11/04/2008 that Obama was going to win this election. Does He have a plan? Yes. Do I know what that plan is? No.

Posted by towngirl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IT'S OVER PEOPLE!!!! ALL YOU PEOPLE BLACK AND WHITE, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MAJOR ISSUE IN THE SOUTH AND IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. PEOLPE HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES & JOBS AND ALL YOU PEOLPE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IS THE COLOR OF THIS MAN'S SKIN. WE ALL NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS ONE AND HELP SAVE OUR NATION. I WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED MCCAIN IF HE HAD WON, IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR NATION AND THAT SHOULD BE EVERYONE'S MAIN CONCERN NOT SKIN COLOR.

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Right, so why do you think it is ok to take half from the rich and redistribute it to the rest of us? That's stealing. If I did not earn something, then why should I have the right to take it from someone who did? If the wealthy do not want to take responsibility for other people's problems, what right do we have to make them do it?

Posted by turtlebug (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Have ANY of you looked outside? It's beautiful! Not a cloud in the sky! The DAY after election and it's beautiful! Did you ever think that maybe this is what God wanted?

And quit being so pessimistic! We have no place to go but up! We really need to quit judging things based on the color of skin, it's irrelevant, and for Pete's sake - he is not Muslim! A lot of you need to start double checking on facts rather than rely on the whisper in your ear.

Either you aren't ready for change or you are racist. 90% of Americans were complaining about Bush as President, and now that we have a president that is different and going to make chances, you're going to whine about it?

He is now going to be our president, deal with it. We all dealt with Bush and I'm ready to make some changes. As I said, we have no place to go but up and I believe Obama will take us there.

Posted by dragonlady (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I usually avoid political jokes, but as I was browsing the internet I saw this one and it cracked me up...

Priest’s last request

An old priest who for years had faithfully served the people of the nation’s capital, lay dying in the hospital. He motioned for his nurse to come near.

“Yes, Father?” said the nurse.

“I would really like to see Barack Obama and Joe Biden before I die,” he whispered.

“I’ll see what I can do, Father,” replied the nurse, and she respectfully forwarded the request to the DNC and waited for a response.

Surprisingly, soon the word arrived. Obama and Biden would be delighted to visit the priest.

As they made their way to the hospital, Obama commented to Biden , “I don’t know why the old priest wants to see us, but the media coverage will certainly help our images.”

Biden couldn’t help but agree.

When they arrived at the priest’s room, the priest took Biden ’s hand in his right hand and Obama’s hand in his left. There was silence and a look of serenity on the ancient cleric’s face.

Finally Biden spoke, “Father, of all the people you could have chosen, why did you choose us to be with you as you near the end?”

Taking a deep breath, the old priest painfully replied, “I have always tried to pattern my life after our Lord and Savior.”

“Amen,” said Obama.

“Amen,” said Biden .

The old priest continued, “He died between two lying thieves and I would like to do the same.”

Posted by patriot (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Turtlebug, I doing consider myself whining when voicing my opinion. I also don't consider myself pessimistic. This is what is so great about this country, we have the right to voice our opinions and let's face it we all think we are right.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@regis
I'm not sure that's exactly what I got out of it. Maybe I'm wrong, though. My understanding of it is that businesses that make $250K or more will be taxed so that health insurance will be offered to their employees. Is that not right? I mean, is there a better way for those families to have insurance to cover doctor visits? I have friends who work for companies who don't offer insurance and they either suffer through the sickness (taking time off of work without pay) or go to work sick and spread it to co-workers.

@dragonlady
That was funny! LOL :)

Posted by dragonlady (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I disliked both candidates, but voted for the one I thought would do the best. The next four years is going to be rough, that was a given, no matter who got voted in. We might as well keep a good sense of humor about it.

Posted by blissfullygreen (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtous, this comment is spot-on. I didn't vote for Obama, but I agree with everything you said here:

"I'm a Christian and I voted for Obama. The fact is that SOMEONE has to hold the office of presidency and he just so happened to be the candidate of my choice. But let the record show, my trust is not in Obama, it wasn't in Bush, it wasn't in Clinton...and so. I may have to go through a lot, as I have before this election, but as long as my faith lies in my Creator, I know for a fact I will be alright if I just hold on. How do I know? I'm still alive!

Are you also in awe of how many americans who call themselves christians who didn't vote for Obama seem to have given up hope on the United States because he was elected? What happened to all the dreams they had during the campaign? Are they not still their dreams? Just because the person you thought should be in office isn't, doesn't mean you don't have a voice and all hope is lost. Or did those christians put their trust and faith in a man instead of the one who created the man?"

I have witnessed a lot of hypocrisy on the part of my "Christian" friends and it is very disheartening. If you are all children of God, why are you so afraid of the future? Obama isn't the anti-Christ! Most of the things you all are so afraid of come from e-mail and internet urban legends!

And to those who are celebrating in the projects your "black" President. Newsflash!! He's not black! He was born to a white mother and a Kenyan father! He wasn't raised in the projects, he was raised privileged! He isn't in touch with the Pike County minority, because he has never latched on the government for support. He is a highly educated man who is wealthy. If he was from Troy he would have lived on Crowe Hill, not Dunbar Street. Does it make sense now?!

Obama didn't run his campaign on race, that designation has come from the media. It is irresponsible and ridiculous.

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous,

You in incorrect. First off, the income level has swayed from $250K down to $100K and varies by marital status. I believe the current cutoff Obama has stated was $200K for a family and $150K for an individual. This tax increase is not limited to businesses, but any family making over $200K, so your theory about those taxes being used to fund health care for their employees isn't quiet correct. Secondly, since when is it the responsibility of the employer of a small business to provide health care to its employees? Last time I checked, employee health care was considered a benefit. I know there are laws requiring large companies to provide coverage to full time employees (which I do not agree with), but we are not talking about them are we. Medical care is not a right, just as having food or shelter is not a right. If you can't afford these things, then you starve, freeze, or die of cancer. It may seem brutal, but it is simply natural selection at work. It certain is not the responsibility of the wealthy (which $200K isn't really wealthy) to support the poor. If you are poor it is most likely due to the decisions you have made, in which case if you get sick, you desire to die. But if you really want cheaper health care ask for reform regarding malpractice lawsuits and deregulation of some of the ridiculous FDA guidelines.

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

turtlebug,

Truthfully, you're a poor uninsured resident of Aster Court and need some handouts. I heard Obama may even give you a free cell phone w/ text messaging and three free Kanye West ringtones.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Can't we all just get along...neck?

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wasn't raised in the projects but I have had to live in them as a mean to work towards building a life for my family. I very well may have to go back there someday.

Before Obama won this election, he was considered black, muslim, terrorist and anything other than just "he has a white mother and a Kenyan father". Well, it doesn't matter to me.

I still have family and friends who live in the projects who don't just look at Obama as their black President. I was privileged to live in the projects because there are people all over this world who can't say they have a place to call home. Most of the people I see in the projects are single mothers/fathers (yes, fathers) with more than one child. Is that anybody's fault but their own? No, but they could've chose to abort or abandon these children. Talking to some of them I've found that they feel it's in their best interest to stay in public housing because they don't have to worry about more than ONE NECESSARY bill and that's rent. Some have cable/phones and some don't; but they have a roof over their head. And many of them have jobs. So it doesn't matter where Obama would've lived if he had been in Troy. With his attitude and humility, he may have lived in Crowe Hill but his heart would've been on Dunbar Street.

Posted by weekendgirl99 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have sat back long enough and read these ignorant,backwoods comments for as long as I could. As it was pointed out to me and which should be common knowledge to everyone that comments on this blog....Their is not one single President that has been elected into office and just took it upon his self to just change things, it requires a VOTE!!!!. I am very proud of President-Elect Obama, this country has suffered greatly over the past 8 years and it is time for a change. Like America showed last night that they are ready for a change also, it is very important that we have come a long way and we still have a long way to go. I am so tired of the issue of color....let's just say if President-elect Obama campaigned with all the issues that he did health-care, education, etc and he were Caucasian would we even be discussing this? If 2yrs ago the Senator from Chicago, who decided with the grace of God and the support of this country to run for the highest office in land and he was caucasian would we even have this conversation? But instead we have a African-American Man that is more grounded than any President candidate, who has a good sense of what the American people need...Who was raised in a single-parent household by a white women, whose Mom died of cancer at a early age and had a issue with the high cost of health-care, and in spite of all the obstacles that were placed before him still overcame and rose to take a seat in the United States Senate, then after 2 yrs of campagning, won the right to be named the 44th President of the United States....Today I am proud to be a United States Citizen.

Posted by panseyf (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the electoral votes across america need to be banned. If the popular vote doesn't count, well just let the electoral college vote for the president. Its time for todays youth and the old to make this go away.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Showdown2
Okay...I see.

I can say that I don't think a person can ever understand the struggles of being poor unless you've been there. I've been poor in materialistic things, but not at heart and I guess that's what has kept me going. Next to dreaming of a better life which I found to be made available to me the closer I get to God.

This is one of the reasons I don't put my trust in the Obama...even if he was my choice or anyone else for that matter. When it comes to the wealthy not being responsible for poor people...I can understand why one would think that way. Which is another reason I cling to God as my source. God loves the poor just as He loves the rich (wealthy) and He will make sure that we ALL are taken care of.

I Samuel 2:8 "God brings poverty and God brings wealth;
he lowers, he also lifts up.
He puts poor people on their feet again;
he rekindles burned-out lives with fresh hope,
Restoring dignity and respect to their lives—
a place in the sun!

Posted by republicangirl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous: I worked in the housing system and most of them didn't have jobs. Most of them don't even have one bill, most get money back. That Is the sad thing about welfare is most people take advantage of it and sit on there butts all day and do NOTHING.... when other people do work everyday.

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous,I can see where someone can slip up and have one kid out of wedlock and can afford to suport it but haveing two or three more is a little foolish.And wait afew more months and see where Obama's heart is.

Posted by mamas_boy (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous- are you joking? You are kidding yourself if you think Barack Hussien Obama cares two farts about you or me. He wanted a position and he said what he needed to in order to get it. I can't believe a Christian would be fooled by such. How do you justify voting for someone who supports murder? I need a scripture for that one.

Posted by republicangirl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WDM you are so right!!!

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@republicangirl
Yes, but not all of them do. The six months I was on welfare (living in public housing at the time), after I paid my rent, bought pampers and necessary items for my son (who was an infant at the time), household cleaning and sanitary items to last through the month...I can guarantee you there was not much left.

It took me having a made up mind regardless of what people thought I was doing or how they perceived me. They didn't know what I had gone through and the decisions that resulted in me being in that state. Had they asked...I would've told them but because people are labeled by living in public housing...no one cares. We're all one big lazy, nasty, rowdy, worthless, drug dealing, no good bunch of people who don't care about ourselves so why should others...right?

Posted by republicangirl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous: Thats wonderful that you could and would do that but most of them do not.

Posted by wisemom (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, if Obama was White, we would still be having this conversation! As a matter of fact, most school systems label (mixed) children when they come in to register, according to what race their mother is, so Obama is actually white. He just says he is black as a political skeem to get black votes. Actually it wasn't Alabama's vote that got him elected though. The ones in Alabama who voted for Obama, didn't even count. It is sad that some of you make this racial. His color means nothing. His morals and beliefs are not based on our "Christian" nation's morals and beliefs. I truly believe, however, that God does have a plan and will see us through this and actually bring us all closer together in HIM to stand up and fight for what is right for our children's future! I know alot of people are blaming Obama's win on the "college age" crowd as well, but I do know several young adults who have had good upbringings and hold true to their morals and beliefs! God bless them! God is going to take care of us no matter what has happened or will happen for the next 4 years. We must have faith that he will!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this is getting ridiculous... Nader/Gonzalez '08... if not? eh well it will prob end up Biden'09... :P but idk get over it guys, elections over Obama is our president and we have to deal with that... like someone said we got thru 4 years of bush 8 years of clinton and 8 years of another bush... dont you think after 20 years of this we can handle 4 years of Obama?

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@WDM
I was foolish for having 4 children out of wedlock but not because I can or can not support them. I felt foolish because when I was old enough to leave my parents home, I laid down my morals and sinned against GOD through the act of fornication. He clearly told me in His word to abstain from premarital sex and I disobeyed Him. Yes, I was foolish then but Glory be to God I am now forgiven and covered in the blood.

@mamas_boy
Obama is not the only candidate (now or in previous years) to say what is needed to be elected. I don't feel like a Christian who has been fooled. We all know that God has forbidden murder and there is no scripture (that I have read or heard preached) to support murder. If I'm not mistaken,neither of the other elected candidates supported murder (abortion) and it still exist today. What did they do to end this brutal attack of our unborn babies? Justifying my reason for voting for Obama is not needed when I specifically disagree with his views on this issue. If that were the case, I would've voted for McCain because he's against abortions (just as I am) and overlooked everything else that I disagreed with about his campaign.

At any rate, abortion is an ongoing thing and until those who exercise that right realize that it is what it is, MURDER, it will continue. Sad but it's true.

Posted by mamas_boy (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

virtuous- I guess we have to have priorties now don't we?

Posted by bookworm (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To countrygirl: OBAMA '08....I will continue to say today, tomorrow, next month.....and next year...OBAMA '08!!!

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, four kids. I don't think foolish is really the right word. Nevertheless, you should not have received any government assistance to help support your kids. They are your kids and your responsibility. If they got sick and you did not have health care for them, that is your fault. If you could not afford food and they went hungry, that is your fault. Your kids are nothing to me and they deserve nothing from me or anyone else. That is the real problem with America today. There simply is no personal responsibility anymore. All forms of individual government aid should be abolished. No welfare, no food stamps, no disability, no medicare, no social security, no tax exemptions. Stick everyone in a 10% tax bracket and make everyone share the tax burden equally. Absolutely no one should have a negative tax burden and there should be no tax exemptions for children, charitable donations, etc. Because of your irresponsible behavior, if you have half a dozen children and they starve to death, hold you responsible. Then maybe people will grow up.

Posted by Jack_Bauer (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

Posted by patriot (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's all about the issues. Don't believe what the politicians tell you or the media. Do some checking for yourselves. Find out Obama's voting record which is out there if you care enough to look. He's tried to appear more toward the center during the campaign in order to pander to the conservatives but his voting record speaks for itself.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@mamas_boy
Yes. It took me having children to wake up and smell the coffee. It didn't matter when it was just me...I was grown then. Now, I have my babies to think about.

@Showdown2
I received Government assistant for 6 months after my first child was born and I haven't been on it since. My kids are very well taken care of. I needed it then, it was avaialable, but I didn't abuse it. My kids may not mean anything to you, but they mean the world to me.

There is no way I would say that about someone's children. An adult...maybe, no not likely. But I wouldn't dare know there is a child in this world that I could help (regardless of how foolish I think their parents are). Let them starve when I have food in my house? I don't think so.

Are you mad about something other than the election? Boy, do you sound bitter.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

first off, mccain is not "against abortion" he claimed he was in the presidential election however before such a campaign he was definately for abortion, as he was for gay rights, amnesty for all illegals, against the war, and against bush tax cuts... but now hes suddenly conservative? yeah right... Obama did the same, he was for and against nuclear power, he was for and against the surge in iraq, on one hand iran was a threat on the other, russia was the threat and iran was insignificant... lol! anyway Nader/Gonzalez '08

oh and btw, why in 2009 would you still be saying "Obama '08" that doesnt make any sense...

Biden '09!

Posted by bookworm (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OBAMA '08!!! The foolish comments can continue for the next four years because that is how long he is here. GET OVER IT ALREADY!!! OBAMA '08!!! You can hate it or love it. OBAMA '08!!! I LOVE IT!!! OBAMA '08!!!

Posted by Jack_Bauer (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@bookworm - your crowd hated on Bush for 8yrs, so if we want to comment on oblablablama then we will. thank you for your permission to hate on him, I was waiting for that so that I can now cut lose on that socialist pig. Now that you have given me permission, just let me say "I hate Obama". Wow, I do feel better now. I hate Obama, I hate Obama, I hate Obama, I hate Obama, I hate Obama......that really does feel good!!

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for the Dreams of My Father posts Jack. I don't know why every one thought this election was about race. He obviously does not have a problem with being half white. (clarification for the idiots: this is a sarcastic post)

Posted by kristie (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a very sad day for America, I do believe the electoral college thing needs to be done away with, the president should be elected by the people not the electoral college, Most people that voted for him were either black or between the ages of 18-29, mostly young kids that don't have a clue what they are doing, they haven't listened to the words out of his mouth and read the books he has written, he is not just a black person(don't get me wrong, I'm not racist)but he is a muslim descendent, and if you are truly a christian you know what this means for our nation, he does not salute our flag, does not hold his hand over his heart when the pledge of allegence is said and he doesn't say it, he has critized our beliefs and will ruin our government, give to the poor and take from the rich and working class, so I hope everyone that voted for him gets what they truly hope they wanted because this wasn't the right choice for America, plus he is NOT a natural born citizen of the US, by law his mother wasn't here the ten years required before he was born, therefore he isn't a legal US citizen, we really need to change the way these things seem to get by the people, GOD BLESS ALL THE CHRISTIANS OUT THERE, WE WILL NEED HIS HELP THROUGH THESE NEXT 4 YEARS!

Posted by bamafan1940 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

roll tide to hell obama

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

why do people keep complaining about electorial votes? obama won popular vote by over 7 million...

Nader/Gonzalez '08

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You received assistance for six months. Why did you need government assistance? Oh yeah, because of a stupid decision you made. So why should the rest of America be forced to bare your burden because you could not keep your legs closed?

Secondly, just because you would not say that doesn't mean it should not be. Certainly if you began to hold parents responsible when their children starved then you would start having a lot fewer individuals in poverty having kids and we would not need government assistance. I know, realistically, a human life is not worth very much and people are expendable. After all, you have to break a few eggs if you want to make an omelet.

Lastly, if you believe a life is so important. There are tens of thousands of children around the world who die of starvation and malnutrition every day. You can not say you would help when you would not. If you sold off all your possessions to help feed needy children, then I might take you for your world, but I'd venture to guess you have not done that have you?

Posted by beautiful (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OBAMA! GET OVER YOURSELF PEOPLE. A lot of people didn't approved of Bush being re-elected, but they had to deal with it and put up with him for four additional years. Regardless, he can't do any worse job than what Bush has already done. Oh yeah, he did win the POPULAR VOTES and they weren't only African Americans, so obvioulsy more people believed in him than they did McCain. Also, we should have been praying to god to help this country and especially these simple minded SOUTHERN people...

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"simple minded southern people"...nice racist stereotype

Posted by justplainjames (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:09 p.m.

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Posted by justplainjames (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This sample of the population of Troy, Alabama is concerned with very few things. The first – protection of and respect for their religious freedoms and beliefs. The second, determining whether Barack Obama is black (or not), and the implications of his race and religious inheritance. The third, how will this election affect “me,” “mine,” and my/our bank account?

In response to the first concern, I suggest that people review the Bill of Rights. Your religious protections, and others, are broadly discussed and described in the First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” In summary, the Bill of Rights does not formally recognize Christianity (in its multiple forms) as the only religion. Indeed, religious freedoms exist on a continuum – you have a right to your beliefs, I have a right to mine, and everyone should be free of the imposition of the other. In reality, you have the right to believe and practice any form of religion – or not.

So, is our President-elect white of black? Personally, I ask, “Who cares?!” This issue, along with religious dogma from all sides, will continue to divide us! I suggest that many generational Southerners may have a few surprises in their own genetic material. In addition, will Obama favor welfare, poor choices, and personal and social irresponsibility? Please, listen to the man, and read his message; get beyond the rhetorical improbabilities posted in this blog and uttered by various media and religious pundits. The bottom line – Obama has spoken at length about balancing freedom with responsibility. We enjoy enormous and unprecedented freedoms in this country, but those freedoms come with compensatory and inherent responsibilities. Rights to procreation? Fine, you have the attendant responsibilities associated with parenthood. Right to live in a free society? Great – this right comes with the responsibilities of protecting those freedoms. Right to free speech? Guess what – not everyone will agree with your ideas, and you have a responsibility to honor his or her beliefs and opinions! Moreover, you will probably find that not everyone agrees with your opinions or supports your beliefs.

Finally, the me, mine, ours issues. We are human and automatically revert to such concerns. However, this country is not what it was a decade ago, and we are in great damage of falling into mediocrity. Why? In my opinion, we no longer give a damn about our neighbors, look for an “other” to blame at every turn (e.g. social service worker v. social service recipient and visa versa), and fail to fully evaluate the source and content of the information provided by this amazing technological innovation – the internet.

Posted by justplainjames (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:13 p.m.

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Posted by place2bhaha (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jaxon8...THANKYOU!!! Someone finally sees him for what he is, MUSLIM!
bglock2839 .... Don't you mean "Iraq" not "Irac"
I just pray our cabinet knows the ropes. I know our country needs help and change. But come on people!!!!! What happened to needing to be American to be president?

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What happened to supporting the President of the United States?

Posted by place2bhaha (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WAY TO GO kristie!!! I just wish more people would see what has REALLY happened.

Posted by place2bhaha (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bookworm....you have no clue what you are doing. Do you even know WHO he is....not just the president elect or senator obama...do you KNOW who he is? Nobody does!! Scarey huh? What a grave mistake!

Posted by mamas_boy (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

justplainjames - So, you have proven yourself a bigger turd that anyone else on this blog. I am proud that you picked up something from your public education. You can navigate your way around a dictionary and the internet. Obviously, you do not think others can voice an opinion, because you called them "dumbasses" for doing so. If you believe yourself, then why did you even bother to post on this blog? Why did you even bother to read it? Curiosity? I take you feel since you left little ole Troy behind you are better in some way. I question again, Why are you reading little ole Troy's newspaper and comment board?

Posted by 1gagrl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is a sad day for America. Not because Obama is black, but because he is socialist and is seeking to destroy everything our forefathers fought and died to establish for America. If Obama shares the morals and values of conservatives, it wouldn't matter if he were black or purple polka dotted. This presidential race was not about race at all, but rather for a way of life that is "Gone With the Wind".

Posted by downwithignoranthicks (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi y'all. I'm a Southern born white boy with an opinion...no joke. I am.
Obama is the president. Get used to it Alabama!

You can still cling to your guns and religion and your superior attitude of ignorance if it makes you feel better. You know, that's what the rest of America thinks about you. Show them that they are wrong. Please.

Take a chance and sincerely pray for your new president. Don't just pray for the country. Don't begrudge Obama any of the blessings that he needs in order to do the job that we all elected him to do. Give him the same benefit of the doubt that you gave to Bush...no matter what you or the rest of the country thinks about him. Obama might surprise you. He might be just what this country needs. We did vote for him, after all, by a popular majority as well as an electoral college majority.

McCain's biggest mistake in the campaign...Palin...also happened to be the ONE thing that really seemed to energize the evangelicals. Really? Why is it that the evangelicals are so excited by people who can't form an coherent sentence? Palin has a journalism degree from a collection of community colleges. McCain graduated practically last in his class at the naval academy. Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review. Biden has a BA in political science, history and a doctorate of law. And both Biden and Obama taught in higher education. Isn't it nice to have an educated leader?

Obama is more than just charismatic; he is thoughtful and intelligent.

Let us not be bitter...and prove the rest of the country right. So much misinformation has been swirling around the internet in the form of mass e-mails, listing false statistics on Obama's tax plan. Look up the facts. Try factcheck.org. It's a great website.

For those of you who are reasonable, rational people, think about the future of your country and how important it is now, more than ever, to stand confidently behind this man, show the world that we are a strong, united nation. We all have sacrifices that we need to make. Large and small. The change we need won't ultimately come from Obama, it will come US and from our ability to come together as a nation, LOVE each other (black, white, purple, muslim, jewish, christian), and make this world a better place. It's ALL about ATTITUDE people.

That goes for all you Obama supporters who only voted for him BECAUSE he was Black too! Act like you have some sense. Now is not the time to throw some out of control block party, tempting the Troy Police to come over and break you up. Don't be ignorant. Raise your head up high, pull up your pants and work with initiative, knowing that it is possible if you work hard enough. The man is not out to GET you. We are far too busy trying to raise our children, pay our bills and get to church on time.

WE SHOULD ALL BE INVESTING IN LOVE and PRAYING that one day we will see the RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT.

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you oh enlightened elitist savior plainjames for gracing us backward plebes with your rich insight into our boorish lives. All them fancee wordins through me fer such a loop, danged if you didn't turn me into a democrat! Can you please type about eight pages more? I love redundant babbling pablum.

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow so many new sages on The Messenger forum at once. Where did all of these great minds suddenly emerge? It HAS to be devine intervention from the great spaghetti monster in the sky his-self! He has finally risen from the mighty pasta bowl!

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All this koombayah crap is seriously making me nauseous...my therapist was right...I gotta get a life outside of hanging with loser goobers on message boards. My reality is starting to get a little too blurred.

Posted by downwithignoranthicks (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Haha! Clearly...there's a lot of insight floating around in this forum. I mean, once you've seen the great spaghetti monster in the sky, it's hard to not to believe that the apocalypse is far behind.

Maybe if we all listened to Rick and Bubba, we could have the kind of America that a true Red Neck can be proud of. Guess we'll have to wait until 2012. Rick and Bubba for president! Yee-haw!

Speaking of elitists...I wonder which of his 8 multimillion dollar homes McCain is sipping his whiskey in tonight, while his billionaire heiress of a wife strokes his ego.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't care if he's a green wicken/hindu/godless-heathen! He has a socialist agenda. Isn't socialism(communism) the reason we went through the cold war? So who really won that one?...

Posted by kazoochica (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just look at the variety of voices expressing their passions, concerns, and hopes on this site!
We are so blessed to live in a great country where people can express their feelings so freely.
It is just another reason I am so proud to be an American!

Posted by zztrojan (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm wondering 2 things:
(1) Will he change the name of the White House?

and

(2) WWPD? (What Will Palestine Do?)

Other than that, it's just business as usual.

Posted by trojanman01 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All you people that are saying God bless america, or the country is about to start going dowing the tube, or the word is coming to an end, are racist and you know, i bet you all would say the same thing about JFK, none of you said this when the gas and milk were high. Stop saying God bless anmerica when you think things are bad but talk to him when things are going good. We need God everyday in our lives. The truth is that history was made and we all should be proud of that. If all you so called God Fearing people would wake up and see that the good book (Bible) says that we are all made in his image. My grandPa told me when i was young that (You can not treat everbody the same but you can treat everybody right) some of you guys need to wake up and smell the air. its over its done if our love your country stand up whats right and thats mankind.

Posted by downwithignoranthicks (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

John Bachtell, the Illinois organizer for Communist Party USA, sees attempts by Sen. John McCain's campaign to label Obama a socialist as both offensive to socialists and a desperate ploy to tap into fears of voters who haven't forgotten their Cold War rhetoric.

"Red baiting is really the last refuge of scoundrels," Bachtell said. "It has nothing to do with the issues that are confronting the American people right now. It's just a big diversion."

Of course that's just one man's opinion. (And everyone knows you can't trust a communist.)

The "s-word" bubbled up from the McCain campaign after Obama said, in his chat with Joe the Plumber, that he thinks "when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Well, that certainly sounds like the words of a Red Menace. But is it socialist?

There are about as many definitions for socialism as comedian Jeff Foxworthy has for the term "redneck."

So, how do you know if you're a socailist?

Generally, it involves espousing government control over a country's basic industries, like transportation, communication and energy, while also allowing some government regulation of private industries.

"Obama is about as far from being a socialist as Joe The Plumber is from being a rocket scientist," said Darrell West, director of governance studies at the Brookings Institution. "I think it's hard for McCain to call Obama a socialist when George Bush is nationalizing banks."

And this from Bruce Carruthers, a sociology professor at Northwestern University: "Obama is like a center-liberal Democrat, and he is certainly not looking to overthrow capitalism. My goodness, he wouldn't have the support of someone like The Wizard of Omaha, Warren Buffet, if he truly was going to overthrow capitalism."

Bottom line: pure capitalism and socialism can be a difficult mix.

Which hits at the heart of the problem. Right now, with the economy in the tank, the idea of a little wealth sharing doesn't sound so bad to people whose 401k plans are worth less than the contents of their coin jars.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-o...
I hope you guys are getting your news from a variety of sources:)

Posted by downwithignoranthicks (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Go bama! LOL get it?

Posted by patriot (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is where the rubber meets the road. Obama has made alot of promises to alot of people. Just go to moveon.org and check our their web site. They're telling us how much money they've raised for Obama and other candidates. Obama has a lot of pay back to do. He better get busy.

Posted by applebottom (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@ zz trojan- I am not sure if Osama will be changing the name of the white house but it wouldn't suprise me if he had the shutters painted electric blue.....

Posted by mamas_boy (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did anyone see what the market did today?

Posted by Showdown2 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

From today:

Nanct Pelosi in talks for session to seek stimulus package.

"But she[Nancy Pelosi] did say that talks are continuing with the White House on the terms of such a package, which would include additional assistance for people who are out of work."

This (whether it comes from Democrats or Republicans) is the crap we must end. If you provide assistance to the unemployed, you are providing them with an incentive not to work. I think hunger is a much bettter incentive than handing out money.

Posted by Trojan02 (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Im confused on something. What makes you black or white? If your mother is white and you father is black how come you automatically become known as black? Where did the white half go?

Posted by downwithignoranthicks (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 10:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I personally voted for Barack Obama's white half.

Posted by BeachGirl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

its a sad time for our country. i voted McCain b/c i agreed with his views. i couldnt care less if he was black or white. Sadly ALOT of voters of obama dont even know what they were voting for. Here comes higher gas taxes, the inheritance tax, and that 'universal healthcare' tax that says they can take up to $400 of your paycheck to give healthcare to people who (not all but alot) sit at home on welfare and are too lazy towork for it. i have a degree and i work my rear off but here hes coming to take more from ME. does anyone else find this seriously unfair??? so thank you obama voters for stickin it to us working people..

Posted by BeachGirl (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

not to mention hitler was also a smooth talker..come on now..

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes as usual, helping the poor working class is too much to ask of anyone making over 250,000 dollars a year... because oh they need the money so badly...

Posted by Linden (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am so very sickened by the comments posted today. I, myself, voted for John McCain yesterday. I felt that he shared the values that I hold: conservative values ie. anti abortion, anti gay marriage, gun rights, etcetera. However, the moment that it was announced that Barack Obama was our president elect, I accepted it and moved on. The images on my television of african americans of all ages watching this man with tears rolling down their faces, and silent tears of joy and pride truly moved me to tears. To imagine what it must have been like for them is impossible. To have the mind set that you are holding back hope for a better future, knowing what your ancestors have been through, having gained voting rights only forty years ago, and NOW seeing this dream come true that you never thought possible must be such an awesome thing! What I have learned today is this. We have a long way to go, but we are taking steps forward in achieving true brotherhood with our fellow americans. Every generation, in my opinion, places less and less thought on the color of one's skin. THIS is something that I know God wants; for us to hold hands with one another and JUDGE NOT. I, as a 24 year old white CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE, am ASHAMED of some of the comments I have read, and others that I have heard. One thing that I have noticed today is that the black people that I saw at school were proud but not ignorant. They have hope for the future. So do I. I pray that we can all let go of who won and who lost. What we need to do now is PRAY. Pray for our future president, that God grants him the peace, patience, strength, honor, and heart that he will need to lead our country for the next five years. As a Christian, this is my duty. To accept the past and pray for the future. As an AMERICAN, I will support the president elect, because he is our leader. I also intend to pray that the bitterness of my fellow Republicans will soon dissipate, and that we can move on and band together. Rich, poor, black, white, old and young, we are ALL Americans. Let our nation be undivided. Let us all take what John McCain so graciously said last night to heart. This is America, and it is our duty as citizens of the GREATEST country on earth to support our representatives. To all of my African American fellow citizens, I pray that you use the strength and patience that you have shown for so many years, through so many struggles to overcome and overlook the ugly comments that you may hear or read! Please rememeber that we are not all ignorant, close minded, racist, or bigotted. As with all human beings, some are more intelligent than others, and the ratios often vary. Congratulations on a day of American history, that will not soon be forgotten!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 12:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"I felt that he shared the values that I hold: conservative values ie. anti abortion, anti gay marriage, gun rights, etcetera."

I agree with some of what you say but this statement is at the very least untrue, see what mccain's views were before he was running, pro-choice, pro gay marriage, anti war, anti bush tax cuts...

"as a 24 year old white CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE"

are you that person from Troy that voted Jay Love?

"As an AMERICAN, I will support the president elect,
because he is our leader"

Finally we agree on something, as a Nader supporter im fully supporting our next president because he is indeed our President... this is something people need to understand... in alot of countries the comments people have made about this president(Bush) and the next President would have gotten them shot or beheaded.

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 4:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Koombya my lord, koombaya...(insert Sam Kinison scream here)

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 7:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I actually used to really like Ralph Nader because he had a lot of "common sense" ideas and no political loyalties. But then a couple of months ago I saw him on TV and he was acting like a lunatic. It appeared as if he had lost it...either that or that LSD he dropped at the Monterey Pop Festival in 67 was finally kicking in.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

uhhuh or you were on some LSD when you heard him talking about the corporate candidates.

Posted by Observer22 (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 7:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ossama' s campaign slogan "Yes we can"
On election night it was "Yes we did"
On the day after it became "Maybe not in the first term"
. . .
Some call the election a land-slide - but 48-52 is hardly a landslide - if it were votes in the senate split that way it would be a cliff-hanger.
An early analysis shows that Ossama carried the Black vote 95-5. If whites were as racist as Blacks McCain would have won the election in a genuine land-slide.
. . .
Those who believe that Ossama's election means they will not have to pay their mortgages or car loans will be disappointed.
. . .
After eight years of the Bush administration cutting taxes for the wealthy, padding the income of corporations with no-bid contracts, committing acts of terrorism against an innocent people under the pretext of avenging the acts of lunatics, eviscerating the Constitution and reversing the national surplus into an astronomical debt the deity would have difficulty being elected on the republican ticket.
. . .

Posted by wisemom (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Did you all hear on the news this morning that children and preganant women don't need to eat wild game because they could get lead poison from the bullet? It is starting already!

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

no this was when he was on some HBO show. he sounded like he was having a nervous break down. poor fella.

Posted by regis (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You know, I might have been on LSD when I was thinking he had some good ideas. That would make sense.

Posted by republicangirl (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (