Posted by turtle (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmm interesting considering they are the "good boy" fraternity.

Posted by muledeer (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Farmhouse is known for not drinking at their parties. They just go to their vehicles, get their drinks and then go back in to the party and have their fun. Everyone knows that is how they handle the drinking thing.

Posted by Jack_Bauer (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Double secret probation.

Farmhouse boys act like they were raised in a barn (or possibly a house on a farm).

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dangerous activity it seems. Something like that could escalate and God forbid someone gets hurt. Silly pranks can be fun between Frats and Sororities but this is not a "silly" prank.

Sounds like those in charge handled things well.

Is this Frat off campus? The article said "neighbors called police."

Posted by Trojan08 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What do you people know about Farmhouse or how they act? You are too busy sitting at home leaving negative comments on The Messenger website to know anything about what goes on at the University, or in the surrounding community for that matter. Get a life.

Posted by divastar (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a prime example of what happens when you put a frat-house in a residential neighborhood, oops, excuse me it was changed to a R-3 neighborhood.

Posted by OldSchoolPike3Worker (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What ever happened to good ole fashioned potato guns?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Seems this was off campus Trojan08.....

...and "Farmhouse" neighbors called police. So if we live in the surrounding community and see this type of behavior happening next door or down the street......Frat or no Frat.....sure enough I'd call the plice too.

Throwing things like that is not funny and is not safe.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

police that is <s>

Posted by Trojan08 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bamabunny,

My problem is neither with the story, nor MOST comments. My problem is with comments like "Farmhouse boys act like they were raised in a barn (or possibly a house on a farm)."

My problem is with cynical comments made by people who more likely than not don't have any clue how Farmhouse guys act or know anything about them in general.

Good thing the neighbors called police. Anyone should call police if something like that happens. It was an act that was totally out of line by 3 idiot new members, who were immediately terminated from the fraternity. It was a stupid act made by 3 individuals and is absolutely not indicative of the overall fraternity.

If these people would do some research, they would find that Farmhouse is one of the more community-friendly organizations on campus. It's a shame their reputation has been tainted by the actions of 3 individuals.

Posted by troy1 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with Trojan08. Most of you probably dont even know a member of farmhouse, and I doubt that muledeer has even attended a party, so why make that statement. Good thing bamabunny isnt a reporter. get the facts straight. "Farmhouse" neighbors didnt call the police (plice), ATO neighbors called them.

Posted by sackofsuds (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As as Fred "The Ogre" Palowakski would say...NERDS! NERDS! NERDS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Trojan08 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes. Nerds. And sports champions. And campus and community leaders. And, probably, making more money than you when they graduate.

Posted by sackofsuds (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Throwing plastic bottles that exploded outside a fraternity house does not sound like “community leaders” to me. How about breaking the Prozac in half next time you take one.... Chill dude.

Posted by Trojan08 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

...which is why those three guys are no longer members. Stop trying to be a jerk and so will I.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trojan08

It truly is usually a few that just don't think about what they're doing....and because of their actions...cause the entire Frat to be punished.

For Troy1 (FoX)

This was in the article....read it again below in quotes.....I also corrected my own spelling "police".

"Reeves said the fraternity members were caught by neighbors who called the police......"

Posted by troy1 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

3 bad apples...don't spoil the whole bunch. They were removed, so let's move on.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As I mentioned before...

It's just sad that a handful of members not just make the Frat look bad but the University as well....and makes others a bit more leery of having a Frat or Sorority as a next door neighbor under the R-3 re zoning.

The bottle throwing goes a lot further than those involved may think.

Posted by preach (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As with every group of people there are always "bad apples"-- From Politicians, Ministers, Teachers, Doctors, Lawyers, there are always some that make the majority look bad. Fraternities are no different.

These are very young immature men that were "NEW" to the fraternity and now will never know the advantages of a lifetime of friends. They made a mistake, and the whole Fraternity will pay for that mistake.

All of you that live in "Glass Houses should stop throwing Bricks"

I have dealt with Frats for over 40 years and have never been around a nicer bunch than Farmhouse at Troy, this come from a lifetime officer and Member of LAMBDA CHI ALPHA.

Posted by sackofsuds (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am sure “they” the community leaders of Farm House make more money than I do. Currently, I am a pixie-dust spreader on the Tilt-O-Whirl but next year I will be guessing people's weight or barking for the Yak woman. So my future looks bright Trojan 08

Posted by BAMAJAMMER (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 1:03 p.m.

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Posted by BeachGirl (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well as someone who has known many of the FH since i grad from there, most of these comments are right on. They dont drink in the house but they do keep it in their cars. Its nt just FH who does stupid things though, look at what SAE did a few years ago....most of them have done something really stupid, and yes all the guys in them arent bad but the MAJORITY of them ar ein it for the drinking and partying and women. thats just how it is..

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Honestly speaking...I think we all "knew everything" when we were that age too and pushed some parental buttons and considered ourselves "invinsible".

I think I was responsible for most of my own mother's gray hairs <s>

Posted by TroyAlumna (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To Bamabunny's quote "Is this Frat off campus? The article said "neighbors called police."

All of the frat houses were torn down and they are being rebuilt on the same land (on Pell St.)

On a side note, I graduated from Troy in 2006 and know several alumni from Farmhouse. I don't know any of the newbies, but the several guys that I know are wonderful individuals that definitely have my respect. Like others have posted, it is a shame that a select few disrespectful individuals have smeared the reputation of the whole. I keep stressing individuals, b/c that's what this is a case of....INDIVIDUALS that pulled a stupid prank that could have ended up with someone getting hurt. This is NOT a case of the entire Farmhouse fraternity pulling this prank....so the entire fraternity should not be on trial here. Just IMO....

Posted by turtle (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know several Farmhouse alum and present FH members. My comment was made because that is how they "advertise" themselves to prospects if you will, they are the "good boys" they don't participate in your typical fraternity behavior, etc . I agree there are great young men in every fraternity (both white and black) and there are some goobers as well, just like the sororities amazing girls and some snots. That is just society. I will say this about every single frat and sorority at TROY, they all do amazing philanthropy work and alot of community service as well.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for the info TroyAlumna

Posted by ALee (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I find this situation very sad…. I happen to know a few great young men in both Farmhouse and ATO. However the punishment issued by Joe Hutto is laughable at best. Being that he is a Farmhouse Alumni I believe he let them off easy. Being removed from social events for the rest of the semester? Well since there is only about six more weeks left that is nothing. I think their punishment should be reviewed because had another Fraternity pulled this kind of “prank” with homemade bombs like devices the punishment would’ve been more sever. Farmhouse shouldn’t be allowed to have any activity other than charity events for a full calendar year. This means no date parties, formals, rush events, pledges for the 2010 year and they shouldn’t be allowed to participate in homecoming next year. (I would feel the same way had my own Greek organization done something this dangerous and irresponsible.)
I also understand the idea behind not punishing a whole group for the stupidity of a few individuals, but this is the perfect time to make an example of what will not be tolerated by Troy University. As of now the “builders of men” are getting a slap on the wrist from the University. This is unacceptably to me as graduate of Troy University.

Posted by Trojan08 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 4:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The fraternity didn't have anything to do with it. The three idiots that are no longer members did. How are you punishing those responsible by punishing an organization that they are no longer a part of? IMO, Joe Hutto IS making an example. And the guys that did it are getting off easy.

Posted by Observer22 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 6:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They were members when the incident took place and the incident involved another fraternity. One cannot divorce the institution from its members...the incident involves Troy State since they were also Troy State students.

Back in the old days in real universities, fraternities had adult supervision, usually a house matron, who kept the youngsters in line. But now they are either completely unsupervised or advised by "adults" who are barely more mature than the kids in the fraternities.

All fraternities, like all campus organizations, have plenty of really good people in them, but it is the nature of the institution that some take the competition, one-upsmanship, too seriously and membership ends up being a bad influence on the members.

Posted by elvis2 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hope these guys parents were notified since it's their money paying these guys way through school . Can't really believe they would be too happy .

Posted by hunterid (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This whole is not fair for the entire fraternity to get punished for a few individuals stupid behavior is utter nonsense. Those boys were members were representatives for said fraternity. So when they do something in obvious aggression to another organization they members of that fraternity should be prepared for retaliation from campus. In short, all fraternities are responsible for all of its members. I believe that FH got off very easy. It is my personal opinion that were it another fraternity especially some of the smaller groups like SAE,TKE, or Delta chi, they wold have been immediately removed from campus and the IFC. The same goes for any organization, BCM, College dem(rep), Secular club, so on so forth.

Im greek myself and I think the punishment is completely unfair and is the campus showing favoritism to one of its organizations.

Let us not forget that FH place on the IFC is unwarranted and illegal. They are not recognized as a international organization. I am not trying to cut them down in any way for i know a few FH guys that are pretty cool. I am just simply putting facts out there.

Posted by Trojan08 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hunterid:

That entire last paragraph is 100% wrong. Their position on the IFC is absolutely legal. They are recognized by the NIC (National Interfraternity Conference) as a member. They have chapters in both the US and Canada, so that makes them internationally organized. They are just as much a fraternity as any other.

Don't know where you got your facts from, but it turns out they are totally wrong.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't the members realize when they are accepted into a Frat....that anything they do reflects on the entire Frat? Whether good or bad?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess what I'm trying to say is that these 3 should realize that when they do something stupid like this that the entire Frat is held accountable. May not seem right at times but that's the way it always used to be.

Posted by dixiegirl7 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

my roomate dates a FH and he said they were pledges...so they werent even in FH so its hard to say that their actions reflect on FH fraternity....

Posted by FoX (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bamabunny, you need therapy. You are the most paranoid individual I've ever met. I am not trojan08. Other than you claiming yet again that I am a user that I am not I really have no interest in this article. I was never in a fraternity, and I went to two, maybe three, fraternity parties during the entire time I was in college. Fraternities were just never my thing. You can even look at trojan08's style of writing and you should be able to tell that is not me. I've never began a sentence with ellipses in my entire life.

As for being Blue_Sky, I looked at some of his/her comments earlier because I was reading an article where this person made a post. I can't see how you would think that is me. There are a lot of comments by Blue_Sky that I disagree with.

So how many people do you think I am I on the Messenger now? Maybe a dozen or so along with the user that you claim I am that doesn't even exist. Remember when you thought there were two fox's, Fox and FoX, and that I was both of them?

You think everyone who has an opinion that differs from yours must be the same person using a different username. Yeah, that's not crazy at all is it? After all, what's the chance there's more than one person in Pike County who doesn't think exactly like you?

You also think there is some conspiracy to cover up Obama being born in Kenya. Do you also think 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government? Is the government out to get you too?

Really, you may need medication. Schizophrenia much?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You never make sense FoX....

You just go off on a tangent and make no sense at all and think you have all the answers....but you just babble on and on going from one subject to the next in the same post...and are starting to be quite funny with your nonsense...yet you are boring at the same time.

You spend more time arguing and calling people names...blaming them for the same thing you do yourself....trying to make yourself look superior....as you dismiss anyone else's opinion.

If I said the sky was blue...you'd insist it was green.

Your post here makes little sense because there is very little said by you that pertains to what I posted on this forum other than a reference to another name.

The more you rant and rave the more you display the dire need for psychological help because you cannot function in a normal psychosocial environment because you have no people skills...and you make that very clear every time you open your mouth. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you are in serious need of some long term help.

Actually....I feel sorry for you because you are 100% pathetic...so put a sock in it....and go watch your "Baby Einstein" DVD's.

One more thing...I don't care what you say <s>

Posted by FoX (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 11:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My post was directed toward your comment where you claimed that I was trojan08. Do you not remember making that comment? How exactly is it nonsense for me to say that I am not trojan08. I am no one on here but FoX. Can you not get that through you thick skull you dumb old lady?
Why would I need to have multiple usernames to begin with?

And about the psychological help, I say you need therapy, so you follow by saying I need therapy. That's funny. It is obvious what you're doing. Your delusional, thinking that there are all these posts under different usernames that are actually created by a single person who's out go get you. I'm sure no one on the Messenger even cares who you are, so why would anyone go through that kind of effort to torment some anonymous person on the internet. It is ridiculous to think that.

Deep down I think you know you need help, but you're in denial so when this idea is brought up you transfer your problems onto someone else.

Also, if you don't care what I say then why even bother reading my comments? Oh, that's right, I am boringly funny. I think that's an oxymoron.

Get a life Birther lady.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 11:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL...funny post........LOL

I'm off to bed now with a good chuckle.......night all.

Posted by TUdance12 (anonymous) on November 5, 2009 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To sum this up.
Since the houses were torn down, a lot of brothers invested in houses together so there are ATO or Farmhouse (etc.) "houses" scattered throughout Troy. There was a house ATOs live at on Highland Ave. and that is the one that was attacked. From an insider perspective I believe it is a little naive to think these freshmen acted alone and were not put up to this by, say an older brother. Everyone knows there are secrets in pledging.

Posted by troyparent (anonymous) on November 10, 2009 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a parent of a member of Farmhouse and I personally know most of the guys in Farmhouse, they are very caring and good guys. Did you ever stop to think that the punishment was based on the fact that the fraternity has a good reputation does alot of good things, not only on campus but off!!!!!