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Charles Henderson High School's Jawara White is stopped by several Pike County High School defenders during the third quarter of the Pike County Classic on Saturday, August 22, 2009. CHHS won the game 38-0.
CHHS defeats Pike County
Published Sunday, August 23, 2009
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Charles Henderson High School's Jabari Brown catches the ball for a touchdown as Pike County High School's Chris Griffin trys to stop him during the Pike County Classic football game on Saturday, August 22, 2009. CHHS went on to win the game 38-0.
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Pike County High School's Marquavous Knox runs the ball past several Charles Henderson High School defenders during the PIke County Classic football game on Saturday, August 22, 2009.
For many of the people in attendance at Movie Gallery Veterans Stadium Saturday night, halftime may have brought a sense of déjà vu.
Just like 2008, the Charles Henderson Trojans led the Pike County Bulldogs 35-0 at the half.
Unfortunately for Pike County, however, there would be no 20-point second half this time, as CHHS preserved the shutout and even added a few points to make the final score 38-0.
Pike County seemed overmatched from the outset, as Charles Henderson took the opening drive of the game 75 yards in 10 plays for a touchdown. K.D. Edenfield capped the drive with an eight-yard touchdown pass to Stanley McGhee to go up 6-0 with 7:08 remaining in the first half.
Pike County went three-and-out on its first possession, giving the ball back to the Trojans.
The Trojans would score again, going 56 yards in eight plays. The big play of the drive was a third-down conversion on an Edenfield pass to Jawara White that went fro 23 yards and put Charles Henderson at the PCHS 31 yard line.
Edenfield finished off the drive with a six-yard touchdown run.
White ran in the two-point conversion to put CHHS up 14-0, and the Trojans never looked back.
“I was really proud of our offense in the first half because our offensive line is so young,” said CHHS head coach Hugh Fountain. “They came out and got after it and threw their body around. I was a little disappointed at halftime because some of them were getting off the line slow, but they were throwing their weight around. They were wearing them out, and I knew they were going to be tired in the second half. We just got the ball distributed to the playmakers. Both of our running backs played well. We threw the ball well. We ran and threw the ball and were balanced on offense, and I was very pleasantly surprised that we were able to do that.”
The star of the game was undoubtedly Edenfield, who accounted for four of the Trojans’ five touchdowns. Edenfield threw another touchdown pass on a beautifully thrown fade route to Jabari Brown that went for 33 yards and a score. He also added a second touchdown run, scoring from three yards out after Zac Wilson intercepted Pike County quarterback Josh Parker to set Charles Henderson up with good field position.
“He’s a balanced player,” Fountain said. “We’re fortunate to have a kid like him because he knows how to run the offense. He’s a good player. What can be said? He’s accurate throwing the ball and he’s good running the ball. He just did a good job for us tonight. He showed up and played well, like you expect him to do as a senior.”
Edenfield went 9-12 through the air, throwing for 117 yards and two touchdowns. He also ran the ball 10 times for 42 yards and a pair of touchdowns.
“I like when the coaches trust me with the ball,” Edenfield said. “The line blocked wonderfully. There was no pressure the whole game. They just pancaked everybody.”
While excitement levels were high on the Charles Henderson sidelines after the game, the disappointment from the Bulldogs was equally as high.
“We’ve got some offensive line things that we’ve got to get straight up front,” said PCHS head coach Eddie Stephenson. “We’ve done some things in practice, but then we get out here in the game and we couldn’t block their front. It was the same front we knew they were going to use. They’ve got some good players. I’m not sure we could block it if we wanted to. The biggest thing we’ve got to get done is improving our fundamentals. Tonight, we weren’t fundamentally sound, and that’s how you get beat 38-0.”
The game marked the debut of Stephenson’s hybrid-wing T offense at Pike County, and the offensive production reflected that. The Bulldogs gained just 127 yards of total offense against the stingy Trojan defense.
“It’s a preseason jamboree,” Stephenson said. “This is our first competition against anybody with a new system. We saw a lot of mistakes we made, but Charles Henderson did a good job. They were prepared. They’re a better football team than we are at this time. A lot of our problems probably had something to do with them, but we’ve got some things that we’ve got to fix in order to be a good football team. But, it’s preseason. We’re not worried about it.”
Fountain was proud of his defense’s efforts.
“Our defense got after it,” Fountain said. “They ran to the ball well, and we came up with some big plays. We told them coming into the game that if we didn’t turn the ball over, we would win the game.”
Stephenson said his team learned a lot from the 38-0 loss, and that it would help both the players and the coaches as the season goes along.
“It looked like we cramped up a lot of the time,” Stephenson said. “That’s something we can fix as coaches. We need to do a lot more conditioning, and we will. We’ve done a bunch already, but it looks like it’s not enough for this group. That’s what preseason games are for. You try to figure out who you are, who you can count on and how they fit in your schemes. We don’t even know if some of these players will be in the same position come this time next week, so it was good for us. I’d like to have won it, but in the same manner, all of this is going to be positive for us because we can take the mistakes, fix them, find the personnel we want and go from there.”
Pike County will open regular season play next Friday night at 7 p.m. against Carroll at Bulldog Stadium, while Charles Henderson will hit the road for a key match up with Greenville.
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Posted by alma (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Be patient Bulldog fans. Do not get down on these guys! They will be winners.These coaches are great and they will be good for our boys.
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Congrats Trojans for winning your jamboree. It may not be an official win in the record books because it is a preseason game, but we all know how good it feels to beat those bulldogs. I agree with alma though. Don't get down yet bulldog fans. Once the team gets this new offense down and they come together, they should be a good team. If I'm not mistaking this is the same offense that Geargia Tech runs and it is difficult to defend.
Posted by Ramsey (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Congratulations Trojans!
Posted by deerhunter05 (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I have to agree with lady9847, what I saw last night was not bulldog football, they did not do any thing right all nite. I feel sorry for the team they might be good but they did not play as a team. I was looking for some more plays from the coach, what I did see was that they have about 3or 4 plays, That to me look like the coach from last year. Get real bulldogs fans this might be the coaches first year if they play the rest of the games like they did last nite PCHS will be looking for another coach. May be they need to start know , So of you might disagree with me but that is your right. I talk to alot of fans last nite an was told by a few that they can not follow a losing team and the the way they played just might be that!!! Know BULLDOGS get your head out of your butts an play bulldog football an go to state.
Posted by regis (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Is it too late for any of the PCHS players to transfer to PLA and play for Coach Grant and the mighty defending state champs who almost lost to a school half their size?
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I was very disappointed in the Bulldogs last night. I do not care about the score, I just wanted to see effort. A new offense is always difficult (plus we run the "I" and not the wing T) to learn early. But run more than 5 plays. The defense didn't show that aggression that pike co. brings every year. The hitting was more like two hand touch than actual tackling. We did look pretty while getting stomped. I wish we could go back to Wayne Grant and Fred Holland but also I wish that Grant would care about player well being off the field as well as on it. He would still be there. Grant and Bazzell had a falling out and now this what PC football has become. A new coach search begins now...8/23/2009 10:49 am
Posted by turtle (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't know what the "truth about Eddie Stephenson" is supposed to be but I've dealt with the man alot since he's come to PCHS and from what I see he is moving PCHS FORWARD. Yes, there are going to be some rough transition changes but it is time for those changes. I saw alot of things last night in that game that were not coaching problems. I saw players not paying one iota of attention to what coaches were saying to them, not even looking at the coaches as they were trying to call plays in to them or tell them to get on the field. You can't blame lack of player attention on the coaches. Some of those boys heads just were not in the game last night and they need to fix that. As to Grant, if people want to see him coaching go to PLA games. He isn't at PCHS, he left PCHS and as far as I'm concerned as a parent of an athlete who had to deal with the mess he left he can stay gone! If you are a true Bulldog fan, support the coaching staff that is there whoever they may be, support the kids. If you are supporting a man, then you aren't a true fan of the school/team regardless of what school or team it is! I also heard alot of parents of players talking last night and fans and none of them were down on the new coaching staff, they were actually pleased with the things they've seen from this new staff. Go BULLDOGS!
Posted by gods_girl (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Anybody have any idea about the other pike county team (GOSHEN) that was supposed to play this weekend???? Goshen was scheduled to play their game in Slocomb but I didn't see any articles that said whether it was cancelled/played/rescheduled??????
Kinda crazy huh?
Posted by positivity (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Some of you call yourself bulldog fans and then won't give the new coaching staff a chance. Good grief--it is the first game and you are already wanting a new coach--get real! If you are a true fan then you should support win or lose. As far as only running a small number of plays--it is preseason, I'm sure every play wasn't revealed for upcoming opponents to view on tape.
Posted by turtle (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Positivity, baby you can come sit next to me at any ball game! Your statement is quite possibly the most truthful and best post ever on these forums!!
Gods_girl, Goshen played Friday night. I guess the only game around the area that was postponed was the PCHS/CHHS game. Goshen fell by one point. There was an article in the Satruday edition (the paper one). I thought there was one online but I may have only seen PLA's. But yes, they did play.
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am a true bulldog fan thru and thru. That is why i am passionate about my dawgs playing the way they played last night. I sat thru the the 98 season at every home game when the bulldogs went 1-9 in the reg. season and wasn't upset because of the fight in they showed in every game. Who goes to a game to see a team loose. A true fan supports losing I guess...A true fan supports effort. If the coaches cannot get the players attention then they are not good coaches.
Posted by TROYFAN (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 1:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The bulldogs need to learn more class.... I don't know what number did it for pike co but one of the bulldogs had a very late hit on number 24 for chhs after he was about 5 yards deep in the end zone after scoring a touchdown....i think it was the last touchdown of the 2nd quarter.
Posted by troyfan08 (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Granted that it was not very classy for the Pike Co. guy to throw the late hit, but lets be fair. It was not the only late hit...I saw too many to count, not counting the pushing back and forth after the whistle blew. I watched 7 CHHS players walk into McDonalds yesterday with their cups, fill up their cups, and turn around and walk out, get in their car and leave. I was taken back that people just allowed them to do that. I watched the same 7 guys try to start something with 2 Pike Co guys in Wal-Mart about 2 weekends ago. So, yes, the late hit was not classy...but I really think that it goes both ways. There was pushing and shoving going on both sides. And before anyone says I am just trying to take up for the PCHS guy (because by no means do I think the late hit should have happened)....I am not...just trying to see both sides.
On a lighter note....thought the bands did really well!!!! Heard that the PCHS band had about 16 out with the flu! I still enjoyed the show!
Posted by positivity (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, late hits do not show class; however, class is something that Coach Stephenson and his staff is teaching the young men. One player's lapse of judgement during one play should not reflect on the whole team--remember "Rome wasn't built in a day". Is it even built today? Last check--Rome still exits; therefore, it still isn't 'built'. Moral: You're always building--whether it be in class (sportsmanship) or giving your best effort on and off the field--there's always room for improvement. We just have a little more room than we would like. Remember this offense is new to the players--they will get better. And I would bet the farm that the coaches were just as disappointed in the outcome as any one else. You won't find a more competitive person than a coach--no coach wants to lose. You don't have to beat a coach when they are down--they are doing it to themself. And if I was to go down the street, film was being analyzed, play selection looked at and, as Coach Stephenson said in the newspaper article, players may be looked at for different positions. Rest assured they aren't home in their easy chair watching the Little League World Series.
Posted by deerhunter05 (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
When some one goes to a high school ball game it is to watch a good match up of running an hitting, the game that the Bulldogs was in was in their mind not on the field. I went to PCHS an finish in 82 also played for the bulldogs we had heart back then when we lost we went down hitting that is what Bulldog football is all about. Every body that PCH played in the past knew that they was in a ball game. We did not lay down like the young men did last nite. There was no heart in the players on the field, about the only thing I saw that they did good last nite was walk through the gate before the game started. They need to get in shape not walking around with their hands on their hips. An as for as the QB Parker he needs to be a leader an what I saw of him last nite he is not a leader.As a senior a player needs to step up an lead the team since he's the QB. anybody could have done what he did last nite, because he showed nothing. May be they need to try another QB.
Posted by pete (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
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Posted by positivity (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mugs--you're upset over mugs! Plastic-Glass-no, must have been gold. If the championship mugs were so important, why were they somewhere that they had to be found? Why hadn't they already been distributed to pike county fans or students?
Posted by pete (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
there is one thing missing at pchs that has been there in the past great athletes.Dont blame this coach because they lost he just beat CHHS less than a year ago but guess what he had better athletes.PCHS fans got spoiled with all the winning in years past just be patient they will be back in time.and any way shouldnt a 5a beat a 3a any way.
Posted by deerhunter05 (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The state championship items should be kept so the visitors could see in thy gym show case. An to your question pete that 3a school has beat that 5a school when Grant was there yes he is gone but the kids was still there last year, an some of them are still here.PCHS is a winning school but they have too have a coach to teach them an guide them in the right way. Yes Bazell wanted every thing that Grant won gone from pike county , does that mean that they are going to clean out the Gym with the championship pictures that are on the wall, an all the area champions banners the are around the wall in the gym.
Posted by akabossy (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 6:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What PCHS needs is a coach that knows Bulldog football. They had an advantage at that when Fred Baxter applied for the coaching job and was not given the opportunity to keep the Championship going. Who is more qualified than him and knows all about football? His 12 years of playing in the NFL speaks for itself and his career. Grant was an excellent coach, but he has moved on and now it is time for all you Bulldog fans to move on too. GREAT JOB CHHS!!!!
Posted by deerhunter05 (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with you akabossy we need a coach that knows BULLDOG football, yes Fred Baxter would have been a great coach, he knows all about bulldog football. Some people still think that Troy being a 5a school should have beat Pike as a 3a school. What they are missing that when Grant ws the coach he beat CHHS more than he lost to them.May be Grant will help take PLS back to the big dance. Dogs get your head out of the clouds an get ready for Carrol Friday nite an run more plays than 5 .
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I can't take anything away from coach grant because he did have a good record at PCHS, but look at some of the athletes he had there to work with. I played for CHHS back when there were guys like Cornelius Griffin, Carlos Carlisle, Benny Myhand and many other good athletes playing for PCHS. If I'm not mistaking, there are 2 PCHS players currently playing for D1 college football teams. This new coach may not have these kind of athletes to work with yet. Who knows, CHHS might be a really good 5A team this year. You need to give the coaches a chance to grow with these Kids. We went 3 and 7 when coach fountain first came to Troy and I'm sure he had his doubters, but he has put together a good program in Troy.
Posted by ballbuster (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I've read alot about how BullDawg fans should accept change and move on. This game reminded me alot about our great country and the shape our economy is in. Everyone wanted and voted for change and now look at the shape we're in same as the dawgs. I guess you could say Pike County football is in a recession but Saturday nite it looked more like a depression.
Posted by Invictus (anonymous) on August 23, 2009 at 11:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Some are getting carried away, the championship trophies are still around for viewing in the trophy cases in front of the gym and down the hallway in nice, new cases leading to the locker room.
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 6:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Trojan 97
Grant wasn't the coach at PC when those guys you named where there. If he had been I could easily have for-seen a championship or two. We had Coach Beasley then. Even then CHHS always had and will continue to have more athletes than PC. But we have always played with more heart and competed harder is why we have won and beat CHHS in times past. Seriously you all should be beat us every year but that is when want it comes into play. Just ask Coach Collins. I understand that you are not going to have a great year every year but show that tenacity when you play for the bulldogs, that is all a true bulldog fan require.
ballbuster
Haven't you heard...the recession will be over by the end of this year. Not said by me but by economist. PC football will be back by October, I hope.
Pete
When did this coach beat the Trojans...reg, season or playoffs? Probably the playoffs! hahahaha...just a little trojan humor.
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
To say that CHHS has had more athletes, I don't believe they have. In recent history, which school has put players in the NFL? I've not lived in Troy for sometime, but to my knowledge I can't think of 1 player from CHHS playing in the NFL. Brundidge has had some really good teams in the past that could give any 5A team run for their money. I'm sure they had heart, but athleticism has played a large role for PCHS's success. You are correct that coach beasley was the coach back then. I couldn't remember, but even with all those athletes they had back then on the PCHS team, coach Fountain defeated them in the 4A state playoffs while coaching for W.S. Neil. It's not a given that CHHS should beat PCHS every year. They should win more than PCHS, which appears to be the new trend, but when PCHS gets those good athletes in there every few years, they will give CHHS some trouble. If it were a given, I don't think it would even be a rivalry. By the way, I don't know what Pete is talking about either.
Posted by sloppyboy (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I WAS VERY SHOCKED TO WITNESSED A GAME OF SUCH MAGNITUDE SAT.NITE!! Is this the best that money can buy ; Where is Wayne. Iam still surprised, is fred holland even at the school.Let me guess, turtle he`s not good enough.Think for a minute , goshen fan make a stand, pike county fans sit in the stand.All the coaches that meant something was forced out .Throw all the mugs out and you run all the coaches off, you cant take away those 5 state titles.Have he even won a area title!! The Board GOT THIS RIGHT AGAIN!! GREAT HIRE
Posted by trojanman01 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Some of the stuff you people say is so dumb. Know your facts chhs leads in wins over pchs. Pchs fans get over it grant left and he is never coming back. Who cares if the man throw out old mugs if y'all want them go pick them up. If grant was so great of a guy why does he not put more guys in college not just to play football how many boys did he get in like wat 4 out of 1,000 its more to life then football. If a coach does not care enough to help a kid go to college wat is he good for. Well I guess he does have those 4 or 5 rings does that make him great coach its more to coaching then winning unless your a pchs fan because that's all some of you guess are talking about. Go Trojans 38-0 let's be real grant would have got the same thing this year too.
Posted by turtle (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes Fred Holland is still at the school, he is an instructor. As far as coaching I don't know about other sports but no he isn't helping with football this year. Lady apparently you know who I am and that's fine. If that's the case then you also know that I could care less who is coaching/athletic director whatever, I am a true bulldog fan and I'm there win or lose. My child plays sports at PCHS and all I can go by on Coach Stephenson is the fact that no matter what I've asked him about (or where on campus, off campus, in Wal-mart wherever) he has always taken the time to sit down with me and talk about things. And so far everything he has told me he planned to do, he's done! I saw his face at more softball and baseball games this past season than alot of parents! Some of those kid had parents who never even came to a game or a practice but he was there for alot of them. That's more than we've seen in the past! He has shown he has interest in all athletics as the AD not just football. He has been active in every sport at that school. Personally I don't care if they never win another game I'll still be there to support THE KIDS/THE ATHLETES! and my high school. For me it isn't about who calls the shots but those kids out there on that field (whatever type of field it might be) and if people don't like me for my way of thinking, well, honestly if you truly know me, you know I could care less. I just ask that you don't bother me and don't mess with my kid (biologically or just the ones that I'm there for when parents remain constantly absent) because that is when I can be ugly. I don't get ugly over sports, I get ugly over people messing with the kids.
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
trojan97
CHHS has always had more athletes. And depth to go along with that too. We should be wore out when the 4th qtr hits. But that is when that bulldog fight comes into play. Far as getting to College and the pros...well comes back to coaches...and heart. Cencade Pennington was probably the most dynamic runner to ever lace them up (other than Steven Coleman) in High school. We should have had championships them years Beasley for the amount of talent we had but it comes down to coaching. The game is not a rivalry because of competition level. Its because we are 8 miles away.
trojanman01
Hugh Fountain hasn't put that many in college that I know of. Grant is a tremendous coach but he doesn't look out for the players off the field. If this new guy will do that then I will put up with this 90's hybrid wing T offense. For a while! I am pretty sure that we can find those coaches who care for the kids on and off the field while still being able to keep that bulldog tenacity.
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Going back to Cencade Pennington is a good example of a team full of heart that was not as successful as they should have been. That team was full of talent. It was no secret who the ball was going to though. Coach Jeffcoat was running an outdated wishbone offense. If Fountain had been the coach in the early 90's. CHHS would probably have a couple more State Championships under their belt.
Posted by sloppyboy (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am glad to know that you people that come to pchs games are so blinded.Coaches who have proved themselves from pchs in never given a chance what does that tell you pchs fans.Stop crying in get on some real issues.Coach Holland ,teaching pe is what your saying.!! You are slow, how many coaches are from brundidge, ask yourself a question how many from brundidge was let go over the years.You say cause he spoke to me well good turtle. you have amore underlining issues did you play any athletics in school. I hope we can six games.Maybe you can down size the schedule to get some wins for next year,troy is alreay coming off the sched ule.
Posted by Opinionated1 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 1:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I just wanna say, Wayne Grant is missed by the BULLDOG faithful! No he is not the only man who can coach a team to a championship but he is the only proven winning coach in PCHS history. Now it would be great to think that Stephenson would even begin to hold a candle to him but from the looks of it, it's doubtful to say the least. Bazzell has once again shown just how much he cares about PCHS and it's kids by finding someone who has no connection there. He's given him a book of blank checks and allowed him to spend money that Grant generated through the winning seasons and was not allowed to spend. The stadium looks like crap a week before the seasons opener, which was never the case under Grant's tenures. Grant put a lot of hours and sweat into that program and molded those kids into champions which allowed for the city of Brundidge to stand out on the map. Yes, he's gone and I don't blame him for moving on because of the crap he went through with both Hall & Bazzell. The sad thing is, the kids and the program will suffer. The fact that a homegrown well experienced man) was looked over for that position speaks volumes about Mark Bazzell. The position of Superintendent is the position that should be up for negotiation along with the PCHS principals job!
Posted by sloppyboy (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree its sad to see underhandness all the coaches over the years like it has been done , but the sad part not one word of it.Look at the board members, they took a step back in allowed it .Stephenson , want win. When has he every won, than hes hired give me a break ,it ego from the top 'Bazzell, why is a mistery!! Stephen, that is why he didnt want any coaches from the past, to much winning around him its 2009, not 1909,so people wake up.Grant is pike county so why hate who else has put the banners of state up.
Posted by macman12 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Come on Trojan97 whenever CHHS can win a ring then you can talk that nonsense. The last time they won a title was like in 1981 with Jacob Money and thoes guys. I give them credit, they have had good talent but nothing came out of it but defeat. How many players has your coach sent to the next level and made it to the NFL? NONE as I recall, so how can you put grant down? Maybe if CHHS had grant they would have had a title by now or at least gotten to the big game but as we all know that won't happen. Even though PCHS is rebuilding as a team and coaching staff I'm still willing to bet they will be playing for another chapionship befor CHHS.
Posted by luv2tch (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sloopyboy, please get someone to proofread your work before you submit it for others to read. Too many grammatical mistakes.
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Macman12, Please tell me in any of my posts where I have put Grant down. Sounds to me like your down about the 38-0 loss which could have been a lot worse if it weren't for a classy team like CHHS who showed some mercy on your dogs in the 2nd half. Sorry if it hurts so bad. When Cencade Pennington was there, CHHS did have a Championship caliber team but not a championship caliber coaching staff to go with it. Not only was Cencade on that team, but we had the second fastest football player in the state in James(Buster) Moultry. I was a sophmore on the team when these guys were seniors and believe me they were good. Like I said before, the coaching staff just wasn't good. They still made it to the playoffs, but didn't go as far a they could have if Fountain were there. Your right. CHHS hasn't had a ring in a long time, but what good did those rings do ya Saturday night. Nada! Also if you look at one of my previous posts you will see that I acknowledge that PCHS has put players into the NFL and CHHS hasn't. So calm down a little bit. macman12
Posted by trojanman01 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Bamastick I guess u don't know much about chhs but that's ok we do put them in not all of them play sports but the do go to school just to name a few schools 3 at aubrun 1 alabama 2 southern miss. 1 Middle 10 2vandy 1 troy and the last goes on and on and that just in the past couple of years
Posted by sloppyboy (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 5:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
luv2 teach, reguardless of what was typed did you get the point. If you are a teacher ,when do you have time to teach, because your on the internet. In it is my day off.Did your make school make ayp.To all my readers, like I STATED GREAT HIRE,WOW WE GOT ANOTHER GOOD ONE!! Let`s win the area first
Posted by thor (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
MacMan12, allow me to let you in on some facts. First, Grant has not gotten all that many players into the pros. How many would you say? Not many. On the other hand, it is no contest that Fountain has gotten a ton more kids college scholarships for football than Grant ever got for his guys. That's because when Wayne had used them up, he was done with em. Didn't care a lick after that. Fountain knows there is a lot more to the game than wins and losses. It's not all about how many players you can abuse to motivate them. Also, Fountain doesn't recruit illegally. Grant did, when he was at PCHS. Take a look at Darrell Reynolds. Ther is a good example. And after all that, who helped Darrell get a scholarship to a JC? Fountain, not Grant. That shows you what Fountain thinks about kids.
Posted by thor (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh, something else MacMan12. It is obe heck of a lot easier winning a championship in a weak 3A division than it is in 5A, where you have to face the likes of St. Paul's, Vigor, and Briarwood, to name just a few. Pike County couldn't have come close to beating those teams. they won because they play weak opponents and in a very weak region.
Posted by AUIZBAK (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You know its funny that i sit here reading most of this junk, lol, im just wandering if pike co. football gets back in the next few weeks, will you all be talking about the coach then? how bout give the man time to put his system in place and how bout give the team time to learn this system. after all hes not GOD. HOLD YOUR HEADS UP DAWGS THE REAL FANS SUPPORT AND LOVE YOU NO MATTER WHAT, NO FEAR HOW BOUT THEM DAWGS LETS GET CARROL FRIDAY NIGHT!!
Posted by deerhunter05 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thor yes CHHS has always got a sideline full of players but you can not play but 11 at a time, CHHS has what it takes to make the play offs but taht is it they don't go no where pass the second round. PCHS done that with grant they went to the big dance 5 times an came away with the win, can't say that for Chhs, afews years back when yall had all those seniors can could not go nowhere what happen Fountain could not coach well enough to go any where!!! If Fountain got Darrell in a JC why didn't he stay,? AN Pike Co. has played Vigor in the past when Pike was a 4a team,It is to bad that Briarwood keeps putting CHHS out of the play offs.
If pike is in a weak region then why do the send the teams from the south to play on the west side of the state all the way almost to the Mississippi line to play in the play offs. They made it clear that they can win in the play offs.
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
if I remember correctly a couple of seasons ago CHHS lost to St. Pauls who if I'm not mistaking one the State title or went to the title game. St. Pauls had 5 or more players commited to play for ALabama it seems like there were more. To have that many players commited to play for a D1 college is outrageous. Can we say recruiting. If it werent for St Pauls recruiting players, who knows what CHHS could have done that year. Of course that is just thinking about what could have been. Why is it so bad that Briarwood keeps putting CHHS out of the playoffs. When has Pike county beat them. Pike County just better be glad they don't have to play Pike Lib this year lol!
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
By the way. Did these trash talkers fom PCHS ever go to class. It seems like almost every paragraph written by them has at least one sentence that I cannot understand. It is amazing how much trash talking someone can do after their team just got stomped 38-0. Imagine if they had won!
Posted by Observer22 (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
deerhunter05 and Trojan97 - - when did chhs ever play Briarwood in football? The two teams have never met.
Posted by trueblue (anonymous) on August 24, 2009 at 9:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
WOW! If only we could get this passionate about academics...imagine the incredible success stories that would be streaming from our schools! I love football and life lessons it can teach, but give me a break!
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 6:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Come on trueblue! This entire article is about football and not academics. If you wanted to see comments on academics, you should have read a different article.
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
trojanman01
If we are not talking about football then what are talking about?! Sure CHHS get kids into college. That is the purpose of every high school. CHHS football team does not send that many college, however! I can name a few...just like anywhere else.
thor
Fountain has approximately 60 more players to work with. Grant only had about 18-25 players every year. Out of those, not everyone was college material; either grades or athletically. But they have enough heart every year to beat teams that CHHS could not beat...ie..Stanhope Elmore; Eufaula; even losing to T.R. Miller a couple years ago. Pike Co. beat 2 of those 3 teams CHHS lost to, the same year and should have beat Stanhope! A weak 3A division...ha! At least we can beat the teams in our area when it matters (playoffs)! Go ahead and beat Wetumpka and Carroll, and also Daleville, etc...and lose in the 1st or 2nd round.
Maybe when Fountain retires and Grant takes his spot CHHS will become an elite power. Fountain is the Tony Romo of coaching. Can't win in the playoffs!
Posted by thor (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 7:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'll say it again. During the course oif a season, PCHS plays a cupcake schedule. that is why they get a free pass into the playoffs, and can go deeper in the playoffs. They do not face the mega private schools in big cities like your St. Paul's, etc, who can recruit. By the way. deerhunter, darrell left to come back for personal reasons. What does that have to do with Coach Fountain. reynolds was Grant's player, yet Grant did nothing for him once he's used him up. Fountain cares for the kids as individuals. Grants uses them, beats the stew out of them, then casts them off. Grant left because he could see the talent dry up. PCHS is starting to become an ordinary team. I hate it for em.
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Chhs plays a cupcake schedule...the trojans do not play St. Paul's in the reg. season. We don't pick our schedule in the playoffs. We will play anybody anywhere no matter their classification. Unlike Chhs we do not play teams that are a lower classification than us other than goshen which is another type of rivalry (and we just started back playing them). Fountain uses them, babies them, then casts them off. To begin to become ordinary means that at one time that we were extraordinary!
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey bamaslick. Which coach is still there? Hasn't left and come back, but stuck with the program since 1997. Coach Fountain is a better coach than Pike County will ever have. I think if you have ever talked to the man, you would probably gain some respect for him also. He's a good guy and a good coach. I think Pike county needs a coach like Hugh Fountain who will stick around and be a true role model for those boys.
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Grant would be there if it wasn't for the Superintendent...Grant left in the 90's because he thought the grass was more green in Talledega. All coaches leave somewhere before settling. Coach Fountain had to leave from somewhere. Ask those guys about a coach that will stick around. I have spoken with coach Fountain before, but having respect for someone does not mean that that person is above criticism and some ridicule. He is a good guy and a good coach but not a championship level coach yet. Pike Co. needs a coach the understands PC mentality.
Posted by thor (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bamaslick, there is no comparison between the difficulty of the CHHS schedule versus the PCHS schedule. The 5A schedule of CHHS is way more demanding than the cupcakes in #A the Pike County plays. I mean Abbeville and Headland? Come on. The only thing those schools are good for is cow-tipping. If PCHS had to playthe same schedule as CHHS, they would not have any state chapionships. None.
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If Pike Co. had the facilities of CHHS (a million dollar indoor practice field) and 80 - 100 players to come out for football, we would be right in the mix every year. Past the 1st & 2nd rd anyway. Matter of fact keep the indoor practice facility and just give us players. This is what it will take for CHHS to win;
1.)They need their own field..Movie Gallery stadium is a college stadium and does not fill up for a high school game which takes away from the exiciting atmosphere of friday night lights.
2.)Stop satisfying parents by allowing playing time for certain kids. Put the best athletes on the field.
3.)Change uniforms...We had to change ours because they were old, CH needs changing because they are ugly.
4.)Play a tougher schedule. How bout playing some 6A schools other than Dothan or Northview that hasn't been good since the early 90s.
5.)Lastly, stop Mike Amos from calling the game!
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, I have to agree with you on some of those points you just made. I never really have liked that orange helmet to much, and I wore one for 3 years, and Mike Amos can be a little annoying sometimes. I don't however believe that CHHS needs to play a rougher schedule though. It just seems that their schedule is easy because CHHS has been beating some pretty good teams lately. The only game that should be tougher is their Preseason game. They should have played CHMS instead. It would have been a better game. I don't know how it is now, but when I was at CHHS playing, the best man was put on the field, it didn't matter who the parent was.
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Another reason PCHS is so dominant in 3A is that they are a large 3A school. I'm not sure about now, but when I played at CHHS we were one of the smallest 5A schools in the State.
Posted by turtle (anonymous) on August 25, 2009 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well Lady the solution is simple then I guess. You don't like me, I DON'T GIVE A FLIP! I don't even know who you are so all I can tell you is since you apparently know me just stay away from me, it's that easy. According to your own post "parents may work out of town and may not arrive home until late in the afternoon". That's fine but most games aren't played until THE EVENING! Also I have NEVER begrudged a parent who misses something due to working, NEVER. However for those that don't what is your excuse for them? I wasn't going to respond, and had tried to be nice but you obviously have some problem with me for whatever reason so all I can tell you is get over it, and don't worry about me or my child and all will be well. If you don't like our coaching staff again all I can say is get over it or don't come to the games. I doubt you'll be missed.
As far as this particular article is concerned, this TRUE BLUE BULLDOG congratulates CHHS on their victory. You played a good game and I hope the rest of your season is successful. To the BULLDOGS go get 'em boys and know that you've got fans in the stands supporting you and your efforts and supporting our coaching staff as well. And anyone that don't like it can lump it!
Posted by macman12 (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Once again Trojan97 you talking nonsense. If CHHS is so good why are they playing a 3A team? Why don't they try playing some 6A teams or even out of state teams like PCHS has done. Also PCHS has played Vigor and it was a close game, Vigor only won with the score 14-8. Also PCHS has beaten 6A teams such as Dothan, not to mention a host of 5A teams. They may have beaten more 5A teams then CHHS even though CHHS is a 5A.
Posted by thor (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Let's deal with these, Bamaslick
1.)They need their own field..Movie Gallery stadium is a college stadium and does not fill up for a high school game which takes away from the exiciting atmosphere of friday night lights.
I completely disagree. the Trojans play in the best 5A venue in the state. Plenty of excitement there. In fact, Theodore (a good 6A team, agreed to play us 2 year sin a row in our place just for the atmosphere. Bulldog Stadium is a dangerour dump. Who wants to play there?
2.)Stop satisfying parents by allowing playing time for certain kids. Put the best athletes on the field.
Names? I thought not. CHHS has a lot of good players. They also don't illegally recruit like Grant did. However, thise days of getting players illegally have come to a stop for PCHS.
3.)Change uniforms...We had to change ours because they were old, CH needs changing because they are ugly.
I love the CHHS uniforms. Could be you don't like them because you are a bama fan, and the colors are like Auburn.
4.)Play a tougher schedule. How bout playing some 6A schools other than Dothan or Northview that hasn't been good since the early 90s.
We have played Stanhope for many years, Theodore, Wetumpka, just to name a few which are in 6A. We play a lot tougher opponents than PCHS. You brag about playing a beating 5A teams? Booker T.? Carroll? Give me a break.
5.)Lastly, stop Mike Amos from calling the game!
That has nothing to do with the teams. Why bring it up?
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Grant did not illegally recruit. Those guys that came from CHHS a couple of years back just wanted to know what it would feel like to win in the playoffs. And if you are talking about the Foster kid that played at PLAS; he should have been playing at PCHS anyway...Brundidge is his home!
Excitement at Movie Gallery Stadium, huh! Please! There is a reason high school teams have high school stadiums. Too many people spaced out cheering.
The color of the uniforms look like Syracuse...Hasn't done much for them lately either.
You play Stanhope but do you beat Stanhope? I forget about the Powerhouse Wetumpka Indians...hahahaha!
Mike Amos calling the game gives the fans and players an unwarranted idea that the Trojans are a pretty good team. Until they meet a pretty good team in the 1st round that shows them that they are not!
Posted by luv2tch (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sloppyboy, I was actually teaching my class how NOT to write by using your work as an example!!!! Yes my school did make AYP, we went far and beyond state requirements. CHMS in Troy, check it out if you can read it. Also, teachers get breaks just like other jobs. If you went to school long enough you would know that.
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Like I said befor bamaslick, Chhs is a small 5A school, so no they are not a 5A pwerhouse, but they do beat larger 5A schools as well as some 6A schools. PCHS is a large 3A school, so you should not have a problem making it far into the playoffs most seasons. You see what happened to PCHS Saturday night against an average 5A school. 35-0 at half time. Keep on talking crap. (OH yeah! This wouldn't have happened if Wayne Grant were still here Whaah Whaah Whaah!) Shut up and take the loss like a man. You are just a sore loser.
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
T.R. Miller is a larger 3A school...W.S. Neal; Montgomery Academy; Oneonta are large 3A schools that carry at least 60 or more players.
We will take the loss...if you all will will take the ridicule of being perennial postseason busts!
If...Well when you'll make the playoffs I will pull for ya'll unlike the Troy fans that I know that never will pull for PC in the playoff. I will not call names now. But they work at a certain Barbershop off of Notch Street :)
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If I'm not mistaking, didn't PCHS used to be a 4A school. Did they go from being a 4A school to being a small 3A school? I really don't know. I guess I should do my homework before assuming. Forgive me bamaslick. Oh yeah, and I guess it won't be so bad losing in the playoffs no matter how far CHHS goes, because the seniors will be able to say 10 years from now, at least we beat Pike County!
Posted by bamaslick (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
They'd rather look at their championship ring!
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 26, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't think this team is going to have a championship ring, and if they do, then we KNOW the 3A division is weak. 38-0
Posted by macman12 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, whats the big deal about CHHS beating PCHS, the game don't even count. It's about wins and losses at the end of the season and that game is not included. Plain and simple PCHS has way more wins in the playoffs than CHHS. Yeap PCHS used to be a 4A and we were winners then and now we are a 3A and we are and will be winners for a long time. Lets wait till the end of the seasons and see who has the most wins then we can talk.
Posted by Trojan97 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You said that PCHS is a small 3A, or that they weren't a large 3A anyway like T.R. Miller and others. I just can't believe that they went from a 4A to a small 3A. I still believe that PCHS is a large 3A and that is why they do go as far as they do in the playoffs. Plain and simple. I'll be looking forward to talking some more trash later. Go Trojans. 38-0
Posted by macman12 (anonymous) on August 28, 2009 at 11:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Once again it's the start of the football season and once again them DAWGS start like they always do, a w in the win colum and once again them Trojans start like they always do with a LOSS!!!! So to you Trojan fans stop all the bragging. Yeah Yeah you beat PCHS in a preseason scrimmage but when it came down to a real game yall folded. (noting new ) That scrimmage game might be the only win yall get.Yall did'nt even play a powerhouse team. we'll maybe they were a powerhouse to ya'll since yall got blew out. Look on the bright side, atleast yall scored. Like I said yall can't win in your class. Yes we are a 3A and we win there but once again we beat a 5A. Maybe PCHS should be a 5A and CHHS should be the 3A. On the other hand yall probably would'nt win there either. It's a shame when a 3A beats a 5A and a 5A can't beat another 5A. All in all PCHS 1, CHHS 0.......GOOSE EGG....
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