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Shooting deemed justified

Deputy’s use of deadly force acceptable, local grand jury rules

Published Tuesday, October 28, 2008

A Pike County Deputy’s use of deadly force against a Brundidge man was deemed justified on Tuesday by a local grand jury.

Pike County Sheriff’s Deputy Henry Wentland shot and killed Ricky Shackelford on Sept. 5 during an attempt to serve an arrest warrant. Shackelford resisted and came after Wentland and other officers armed with a knife and a machete.

The incident had been under investigation by the Alabama Bureau of Investigation, which issued its finding to the Pike County Grand Jury this week.

“After deliberation, the grand jury issued its findings that Pike County Deputy Sheriff Henry Wentland’s use of deadly force against Ricky Shackelford, under the circumstances, was justified,” District Attorney Gary McAliley said.

Pike County Sheriff Russell Thomas said he would not comment on the case, nor would Shackelford’s parents.

In a separate case, the grand jury also returned no indictment against Troy Police Officer Willie Toney, who had been accused of sexually abusing an underage girl.

Charges against Toney, the TPD school resource officer, were presented to a grand jury earlier this year with no indictment being returned at that time.

McAiley said the case went back before the grand jury with new evidence from the ABI, but the grand jury again returned no indictment against Toney.

“That investigation continued,” McAliley said. “They came yesterday and today and presented the evidence available, including newly discovered evidence, and the grand jury did not indict the Troy Police officer Willie Toney.”


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Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 12:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Deputy Wentland and family I am certain have gone through a living nightmare. This will stay with him for the rest of his life. He acted apropriately and professionally and I am glad this investigation came to the conclusion it did and after reviewing the evidence.

I hope the Shackelford family can get on with their lives and have some closure.

I pray for both families.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 2:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

agreed, its a sad situation but the Deputy did what he had too...

Posted by ragin (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 5:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Have you had a family member murdered? There is no closure! All that is closed is the grave when they put your child in the ground. I still say why not use those tazers? What else are they used for? So why did he not use it?

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 6:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If he missed with the tazor he would have been killed, the guy was 4 feet away and coming fast... even if hit with the tazor he could have easily still killed the officer with the machete, the state of alabama law says a police officer can use deadly force against someone with the intent to committ a deadly crime against the officer or anyone else.

Posted by rivethook (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 7:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You lose child status when you attack somebody with two knives while being served with an arrest warrant!!!!!

Posted by turtle (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 7:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Personally I'm glad to know someone like Henry is looking out for me and my family. He is a good person and a good law enforcement officer. My sympathies with the family who lost a son and brother but his actions caused his death, no one else is to blame.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

True turtle, and also, the officer shot several warning shots before hitting him and ricky kept coming... there was no stopping ricky... the officer did all he could and took the correct steps under the alabama state law

Posted by auburnfan (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As a member of Henry's family, I would like to say that anyone who knows him knew from the very beginning that this shooting was justified. For every person that commented before on how they knew him and he was not nice and he probably did it because he thought he could get away with it, you obviously don't know him and were probably someone who he has had to arrest because that's the only reason you could have anything to say about him.
As for the Shackleford family, everyone is sorry for your loss but if you loved him why in the world didn't you get him some help years ago. Henry will have to live with the fact that he HAD to kill someone everyday of his life but he HAD to do. To those of you who called him a murderer I bet if someone was trying to hurt you, you wouldn't hesitate to call him to help you, even though you sure turned your back on him in a hurry. To those of you who supported him you are true friends. You all don't know the effect this has had on him but he has had great support from the family and friends who knew the TRUTH from the beginning. As someone who has lived here her whole life I was devastated at the absolute hatefulness that the people in this community showed in there comments. I hope now that the truth has been proven to you, that you are ashamed, as you well should be. I am proud of my Uncle, always have been always will be.

Posted by Invictus (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And if the taser would've killed him, what would say then? People are dying from police using tasers too.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For "Ragin"

The Deputy was trying to serve an arrest warrant on Mr Shackelford. Mr. Shackelford violated his parole. He started after the Deputy with a machette in his hand. The Deputy warned him to stop several times and he would not...but responded that he "is not going back to jail!"

Mr Shackelford had a history of drug abuse. Someone coming at you with a machette has already lost control and a tazer will not stop him. Tazers will not always stop a person in that state of mind.

The Deputy did what he was trained to do and when he had to do it.

With unfortunate things like this...loved ones and families suffer on both sides. The Deputy I am certain was not happy at all doing what he had to do. But he did the right thing.

My prayers to all concerned on both sides.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For "auburnfan"

Your uncle needs to know that he has much more support than he probably thinks. He is a fine officer of the law that did the right thing...and the main thing is he "protected and served".

Posted by blissfullygreen (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Finally, justice served. I am glad Henry Wentland can put this behind him now. He is not to blame for this, Ricky Shackleford is. I am sorry, but I have a hard time finding pity for a career criminal who was defying the law.

As for Willie Toney, the ABI needs to find someone else to harass. This man is being set up by someone holding a grudge. It doesn't take a team of CSI officers to figure that one out. ABI, use some common sense like 2 Grand Juries have and let Mr. Toney live in peace. To the person who is behind this nonsense, you should be ashamed.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I really think that the police and law enforcement people are frequently targeted for various reasons. Even for perhaps a ticket that would provoke someone to charge an officer with something unlawful.

Like a criminal who has had his/her day in court...found guilty and sitting in jail thinking of ways to get back at the police or the person that perhaps witnessed his/her wrong doing and testified against him/her.

Well if that crime was not committed in the first place then that person would not be sitting in jail.

I do agree however that some law officers feel that they are above the law. No one specific...and no I have not heard anything about anyone here in Troy doing that. But it does happen.

But to accuse someone of wrong doing when there is no foundation is the lowest.

Posted by bamafan1940 (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

murder will always be murder no matter who trys to cover it up in the eyes of god its still murder

Posted by disillusioned (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So far my family has kept quiet about the atrocity that happened in my parents home on September 05, 2008. I realize that most of you readers believe everything that you read. I won't sit here and pretend that my brother Rick Shackelford was a pilar of the community. He wasn't. Yet he was not the monster that some people want to believe that he was. The grand jury only heard one side of this case. Rick could not speak for himself and no one in my family (that was there on that tragic morning) was invited to state facts regarding this case. Eventually all the facts will come to light. Also, Henry Wentland was not the only deputy in the hallway of my mothers home as they shot my brother down. There have been lies told to people of the sheriffs dept. that I have made threatening comments towards Mr. Wentland. That is a lie. I have made no threats to anyone in regards to hurting any of the deputies involved in this case. So whatever nasty comments you may have after reading this may hurt my feelings and my family, but after my brothers death, those stones will only make me stronger. Also for those who may not knkow me, I have proudly been in law enforcemant for 21 years. 16 of them as a police officer.

Posted by pabound (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Officer Toney is a great man, I went to CHHS and everyday I spoke to him, he demonstrated his professonalism but also showed how great of a man he is. He had to tackle alot of Boys and Girls because he was the school officer and if a fight broke out, he had to do what he had to do, just like in the above case. But I can't say Toney didn't do it, I wasn't there, I doubt it but yeah. Also the other case, there are over millions of officers and soldiers who wake up everyday hoping they don't have to use the force they were trained to use, then for some of them who do, are criticized for using the force they were trained to use, as if they wanted to do it, not knowing that everyday this man has to live with what hes done. Thinking of anything else he could have done, when in reality, he couldn't. I have a friend who came back from Iraq, he said he has the say nightmare every night, he is going through hell in his mind because he had to do the same thing. Please don't judge this man because he took a live to save his own because you know damn well you'd do the same thing if you were in his situation. I don't even know him but I know what hes going through. God bless both familys in this situation.

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

disillusioned,as a police officer yourself are you saying the deputies have lied about what went on that morning.
I hope you never have to make that choice as a police officer to shoot someone as Wentland had to.None of us know what we would do if we were faced with that decision.
You say there was more duputies in the hallway what was your point,a hallway isn't wide enought in most house's for but for one person at the time to walk down.I am sorry for your lose but all your brother had to do was give himself up and this wouldn't have happened.

Posted by MsJones207 (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I worked with Ofc. Toney and When I heard about the charges I laughed cause the man has ALWAYS! been a good nature person. I hope the family of the "alleged victim" apologizes for the slander and disturbance this caused his family. You don't come as far as Ofc. Toney has come without knowing that GOD brings you through the toughest weather as long as you trust in him. GOD BLESS TONEY, Vicki

Posted by ytroy (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I TRUST THAT THE OFFICIER FELT LIKE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BECAUSE IF NOT HE'S THE ONE HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT THAT ALL HIS LIFE ALSO. HE MIGHT HAVE PUT HIM IN A SAFER PLACE IF HE WAS THAT KIND OF GUY. MAY GOD BLESS BOTH THEIR SOULS.

Posted by ashleyd17 (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some of you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and state things as though you were there at any point and Wentland was NOT the only one there in that hallway. There is sooo much details in the statement given by P.S.D. that were way off. My family was not allowed there for the hearing and when there's no one there to say a different version then of course people would say well yea it was justified cause. Shiftingshadows-he was way further than 4 feet from them and bullets are a lot faster than any human so hang that up. For those that have said things regarding this was due to his familys actions or non-actions towards him-you righteously need to shut up. I didn't realize there were so many naive people to believe a one sided story like so, that's amazing!

Posted by Listentome (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ashley,
Did he have a machete? Did the ABI not speak with your family? If you feel that everyone is not hearing the whole story, then why not set the story straight? I believe the ABI are the ones who cleared him. Not the local guys. If you want us to understand then we have to know more than the conclusion made by the team of investigators from the ABI.

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ashleyd17,what would your family be saying now if Ricky had killed one of the deputies.Most people hate this happened but most people don't think Wentland killed Ricky just for the -ell of it.I have said this before all he had to do was go with them.

Posted by disillusioned (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 5:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I personally have faced down a .45 semi-automatic. Please people,until the rest of the story comes out, you should not leave lame comments. My brother was not given a chance to "give up". Rick never raised a hand to any law enforcemnet. Things that went on in my parents house was uncalled for. So please people until all sides are heard don't make such harsh judgements about my family. We have been very hurt and still are. We are angry. I would never have treated anyone's family as mine was treated. I hope that none of you that have such low opinions of my brother and family never have to face the heartache that my family continues to suffer.

Posted by Listentome (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So he DID NOT have a machete? If he did not raise a hand then does that mean he did not have a weapon? No one is trying to be harsh on your family. You ask that we not take sides until all sides are heard, yet you are not making the other side clear. I am sure that most people reading this feel bad for your loss. Most of us just do not understand why the ABI would clear Deputy Wentland if all sides had not been interviewed.

Posted by turtle (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 5:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

disillusioned, you family has my sympathy. Having lost a sibling myself (althought totally different situation) I know the grief you feel, and I can also say it will never go away. I also have family members in jail, one for murder, and another awaiting trial for attempted murder. While I love them, I also do not view them with rose colored glasses. Does this mean you and your family are to blame for your brother's death? By no means. True, we don't know the entire story but I cannot fault Henry either, just as I don't fault your family. Decisions were made that had devastating effects on two families. I have known Henry all my life and he is not the type of person who would do this just because he could. I also have known you most of my life and I have seen the effect of the loss of your brother. I truly hope you and your family can come to grips with your loss, as you will never feel closure, that is a myth. But, there could be something good to come out of this. Use your grief to educate our young people on consequences of decisions, on avoiding situations that could lead to dire consequences, etc. Instead of allowing hatred to build as a result of your loss, let something good come from it and allow your brother's name to bring about some change for today's young people. I know you are important in many lives, and several young women look up to you.

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is the other side of the story and when will the truth come out.If the law did something wrong people need to know.As a police officer you want people to trust that you do your job right so if something wasn't right in this case let people know.You have to realize that people are going to believe that the family is going to tell it so Ricky was in the right and the law was wrong.As a police officer yourself I am sure you have seen that many times in other cases.

Posted by beaglemom (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 6:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When justice is one sided, it ceases to be just. For those of you who feel compelled to continue to judge Rick, his family and what happened in their home that you were not privy to - perhaps your time would be better spent with your own families or doing something positive in your community.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

beaglemom,this forum is for people to give their opinions and that is what we are doing if you or the family don't want to read them then don't!!!

Posted by Listentome (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

beaglemom,
We have asked for the other view, but all we are getting is statement about how we do not know what went on. Ok, so tell us so we can have a COMPLETE view. I for one do not want to be unfair.
As far as spending time with my family, I am. I also hope that I can avoid the type of situation that your family is in. I want my kids to always see both sides of things. This is one reason that I am having a hard time with being told that we are only hearing one side.
Again, I am asking...what are we not being told?

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Listentome,that is my point,it is hard for me to believe the deputies just shot a man for no reason.If it had been one on one you might wonder but from what I understand there were at least 3 law officers there and I can't see all 3 going along with killing someone for no reason.
We have alot of cop haters in Pike County for some reason that don't trust any of them.All of them may not be great people but cold blooded killers I don't think so.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ashleyd17: I'm sorry for your loss, but obviously you weren't in that hall either. I said before, where was his family when all this was happening? The blame for this whole situation is on one man, and it isn't deputy Wentland.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First off ashleyd, you know that he was more than 4 feet how? No one is claiming wentland is the only officer that was in the hallway, there were 3... still whats your point? basically you are telling me the ABI held an investigation talked to the family and officers then lied to the grand jury? are you serious? the mother was locked in her room and the father was in the living room and saw NOTHING... 6 shots were fired... ALL BY WENTLAND... so miss shackelford how did "they" gun him down? According to the ABI report Wentland knew Shackelford and never wanted to do this, he gave him plenty of warnings to stop and even atleast 2 warning shots but shackelford kept saying "im not going back" since he had just got out of prison... he was armed and DID have the machete raised with a hunting knife at arms length coming at what ABI reported as a rapid pace... it WAS 4 feet miss Ashleyd unless you are going to say that the parents saw that it wasnt... despite neither of them being eye witnesses.... or were you there yourself... sitting as a fly on the wall? are you guys saying that this was planning? are you saying this was a conspiracy against shackelford? that the deputy just woke up one morning and said "oh im going to shoot ricky cause i can"? thank you geniuses... obviously the grand jury heard enough to not bring him up on charges.

Posted by beaglemom (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shiftingshadows, you are speaking as though you are some sort of expert on what took place. Were you there? Small town gossips enjoying a few minutes of glory in the local paper's online peanut gallery - just my "opinion"

Posted by justmythoughts (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have known both sides (people on both sides) indirectly for years. I hate that something like this happened. You have one family griefing the loss of a loved one and another family dealing with the fact their loved one was the one who fired the deadly shot. I don't know what either side of the story is and it really doesn't matter to me. All I know is both sides need time to deal with the matter privately. It is obvious the family of both sides are reading the posts on this board and I think we as a community need to let them deal with this matter in their own way with out our opinions. I just want both sides to know there are people out there praying for them all!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Excuse me? Everything i have said came from the ABI investigation... now are you telling me the ABI lied? They would have no reason to lie... :) and therefore ill believe them... Thank you.

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As I said before no one is makeing them read what is on this forum.and beaglemom were you there,if not you don't know what really happened either.

Posted by bamafan1940 (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

it seems like alot of people out there hate the shackafords why they are as good as any of you are

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No one hates them, we are simply stating the shooting was justified.

Posted by place2bhaha (anonymous) on October 29, 2008 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here we go again! He had every legal right to do what he did. Now was it what made everyone happy? NO! Was it what EVERYONE else would do? WHO KNOWS!!!! Unless you have walked in Deputy Wentland's shoes and been put in that situation, then you don't know! So go ahead point fingers and say what you would do, but you truly never know. DON'T JUDGE! Again I will say, if you can do a better job......GET TO IT!

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 5:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bamafan1940,this isn't about hate it is about the truth.I understand takeing up for family to apoint.They say the shooting didn't happen the way the ABI said it did,if that is true why don't they let people know.If I understand right only Mr.& Mrs.Shackafords were there didn't they talk to the ABI and tell their side of what went down.I for one don't believe he was shoot in coldblood.I hate the man was killed and feel for the family but I also feel for the Wentland family as well.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 6:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

according to the ABI the parents say they didn't see a thing, the mother being in a locked bedroom and the father being in the living room out of sight...

Posted by NotPerfect (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks shiftingshadows for your insight. I don't think the 'general' public realizes that PCSO and the D.A. did not conduct the investigation to present to the Grand Jury. In matters like this, the ABI presents the case. I don't think they (ABI) have any backs to scratch.....if there was anything there, it would have come out. Rickey had problems for years. His (very) extensive criminal history probably didn't work in his family's favor @ Grand Jury.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Personally I do feel sympathy for both families. And Ashley? I am truly sorry this incident happened at all that caused your brother's death.

Once a child becomes an adult...parents or families cannot control what that adult does...and in this case your brother.

The reported story was that Ricky was home with your parents knowing full well he violated his parole. The deputies came to arrest him on that violation and he point blank told them he was "not going back to jail". Whether or not he was on drugs at the time we do not know...but he approached a deputy with a machette. He was told to "stop" and he did not and the officer had no choice but to shoot. None of us was there at the time.

No one is faulting familes for this...and I pray for all those involved.

If this is something other than what you were told...please inform us.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'd agree with that statement, 100% NotPerfect :)

Posted by localreader (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Any time a person is suddenly "gone" from our lives, we ask ourselves "why." In our process of greiving, we sometimes turn our sadness into anger and feel the need to blame someone for our tragic loss. The loss of Rick Shackleford is tragic to his family but the fact that he was even there is also very tragic to Henry Wentland's family. How do I know? Let's just say, I've been there. I have been completely innocent of ANY wrong-doing and nothing more than an innocent bystander turned victim of the situation then turned into a "murderer" by gossip. Gossip by none other than the dead person's family who had known me my whole life. People who had loved me my whole life. People who knew full-well I had done no wrong but didn't care because they had lost a loved one and needed someone to blame. Someone other than the one person who could've changed everything about that day. He didn't have to die and neither did Rick Shackleford. In my opinion, what Rick Shackleford did was suicide. Henry Wentland did not murder anyone, he carried out the duties of his SWORN oath. Rick knew the consequences of his actions. He knew that if he refused, he was putting Henry, someone he had known his whole life, into the position of having to shoot him. He was just too chicken or whatever to do it himself. Let Henry Wentland grieve HIS loss in peace, too. To the Shackleford family, I'm sorry for your loss but the fact is, he got exactly what he asked for. He didn't care enough about himself or his family to straighten his crap out and stop doing idiotic things to ruin his and their lives. I know that must hurt you tremendously, but put the blame where it belongs.... with Rick, not Henry Wentland.

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

localreader,very good comment!!!!

Posted by bamafan1940 (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yea it must makeyou feel like a big big man

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 5:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ive noticed, most of bamafan's comments are a bit on the pointless random jibberish side...

Posted by bamafan1940 (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 6:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

roll tide eight fingers go bama goodby tommy

Posted by disillusioned (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 7:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I read most of the comments after my brother was shot to death in his home. This comment I make is to local readers. As I have said, I have been a police officer for 16 years and worked in law enforcement for 21.5 years. I have had to pull my gun and I have talked down many, many people. There are two sides to every story and you readers have only heard one side but let me tell you sir, madame or what ever you are, When the truth comes out, I know that all of you with anonymous names will never say who you are but you will have very heavy hearts when you find out what happened two feet from my mothers face. Of course they have to justify their actions for there jobs sake. Too bad some people believe a one sided story. My heart goes out to Josh and Tori Wentland. They are very sweet children and I think the world of them. But let me tell you there were other deputies inside my parents home on that morning but as you all see from the story written yesterday that Henry was the only "hero" written about. So please people don't always believe what you read. There is always more to the story. Remember how upset people were when that "poor" South Carolina mother told police that a black man kidnapped her two children and then abandonded the car with her children in it and he drove the car into the lake drowning her two boys? Remember who really killed her children? Sometimes all the facts are not given to the public. Like I said earlier in a comment, Rick was no saint by any stretch and I make no exscuses for him but not at anytime did Rick ever raise his hand against any law enforcement. So all of you out there in the Troy Messenger world please be mindful of what you believe. And I know that many of you did not even know him but he had a lot of good friends and people that thought the world of him and I loved my brother even though most of the time we did not see eye to eye on everything but he was my blood. He was a human being and he did not deserve to die the way he did. YOU WILL FIND OUT THE TRUTH EVENTUALLY! And you "shiftingshadows, if ABI has talked with you then they are in a lot of trouble. Who are you anyway? Maybe you should sit down and talk with my parents and find out exactly what they did see, what they heard and what was done to them and then you tell me what you know. You sound like an idiot! This will be my last post on this story. If any of you folks would like to talk to me, I work every day. My name is Sherry Lynn Shackelford and I assure you I am not hard to find.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 7:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bamafan 1940 can't stand not getting the last word it seems, but localreader hit the nail on the head.

Posted by WDM (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 7:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Miss Shackelford you say this is your last post but answer one guestion did the ABI talk to your mother and father and if so why didn't the truth come out then.Most people just want to know what happened you say it didn't go down like it was reported.I have nothing against your family it is just hard to belived the ABI would cover anything up.
But I will have to say I didn't know Brundidge had so much crime that you had to pull your gun that often.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Miss Sherry Lynn Shackelford you are an idiot, I am not at liberty to tell you how i know what the abi report says but i promise you I DO.. understand? now tell me how I am an idiot for giving the facts? :) thank you for pretending you were inside the house... GUESS WHAT! NOT ONE PERSON HAS DENIED THERE BEING 3 OFFICERS IN THE HALLWAY... are you not listening? you dont even tell your side of the story all you say is "poor me, poor me, poor ricky, we hate wentland its all his fault, you dont know the whole story" but what is the whole story, you wont tell us... i believe the ABI investigation is correct and ive been completely nice and simply laid out the FACTS in the case... neither of us were there but the ABI conducted a FINE investigation my dear... As bad as the situation was, Ricky was at fault... not Henry Wentland... Thank you.

Posted by ashleyd17 (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

shiftingshadows u arent at liberty to tell how u know what it says but yet u tell details of it on the internet? haha wow. and she hasnt said it was all wentland's fault duh! no she was not inside the house but her parents were and you are not laying out the facts because of what u mentioned about the bedroom door was locked when his mother was in it-so not true and i would know since i grew up in that house because it wont lock, it doesn't even close all the way so yea. none of us can just tell the whole story yet because we arent "at liberty" ;) to and u being as smart as u make yourself out to be should know this. the truth will come out and at no point has she claimed that it was just henry wentland. the truth will not be posted in a comment but i do promise we will have it out there. please keep in mind that we have said rickey wasnt the greatest person but we all know he did not deserve death and it was not something i enjoyed doing when i helped clean his blood off of our floors. ghost of christmas, trust me she definitely wants to "hang up the badge" since all this went down the way it did that day. wdm- there's a lot u probably don't about things that happen within this tiny city kinda like this case with rickey u know? u all will get to hear the other side soon i promise.

Posted by ashleyd17 (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 11:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

shiftingshadows u arent at liberty to tell how u know what it says but yet u tell details of it on the internet? haha wow. and she hasnt said it was all wentland's fault duh! no she was not inside the house but her parents were and you are not laying out the facts because of what u mentioned about the bedroom door was locked when his mother was in it-so not true and i would know since i grew up in that house because it wont lock, it doesn't even close all the way so yea. none of us can just tell the whole story yet because we arent "at liberty" ;) to and u being as smart as u make yourself out to be should know this. the truth will come out and at no point has she claimed that it was just henry wentland. the truth will not be posted in a comment but i do promise we will have it out there. please keep in mind that we have said rickey wasnt the greatest person but we all know he did not deserve death and it was not something i enjoyed doing when i helped clean his blood off of our floors. ghost of christmas, trust me she definitely wants to "hang up the badge" since all this went down the way it did that day. wdm- there's a lot u probably don't know about things that happen within this tiny city kinda like this case with rickey who woulda thought ya know? u all will get to hear the other side soon.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 30, 2008 at 11:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

other side? i heard all the sides i needed to hear and i made my decision... :) the door WAS locked because the other Deputy was HOLDING it locked... :) another fact from the ABI... thank you dear... :) and also ashley, you say she never said henry was the only one... thats kinda my point, no one is saying henry was the only deputy in the hall... and yet sherry keeps saying "HENRY WAS NOT THE ONLY DEPUTY IN THE HALL" blah blah see what i mean?

Posted by ashleyd17 (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 12:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

all she said was that he was the only one mentioned in the article as the "hero". ok if that is so, what was the purpose in holding it locked? and why didnt u say holding to begin with thats kinda odd to add that small detail later. things were not done in an appropriate manner and sit there and tell yourself they were all you want.

Posted by disillusioned (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 12:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

shiftingshadows, you have a whole lot of mouth and "abi"reports and you did ask me to give one more comment. Well honey, here it is: If you think you know so much about the" abi "report, do think maybe Jackie Hornsby told you something that he hasn't told anyone else? Or maybe it was Tommy Merritt with "abi"? I know these people and the only time they would have told anything would have been in the Grand Jury on October 27, 2008. Otherwise you are talking out the side of your face. I usually don't stoop to the level of stupidity that you are but you actually offended me. Let me say one more time in time you and everyone else in the county of Pike will know everything that happened on October 05, 2008. And what is so bad, it's absolutely none of your business! And to ghost of christmas, I have absolutely no intention of "hanging" up my badge. I am a good police officer and who cares what your opinion is. You people get on this forum but none of you have the guts to say who you are. I am proud of who I am, who my parents are, and proud to work for the City of Brundidge. You sound as if you have problems that my job capacity cannot even begin to help. I pray for all of you that feel you have the right to judge anyone that has any type of article written. If there is a God in heaven, fall to your knee's anonymous people and ask for forgiveness! This is the last post from me on any of these subjects. Go ahead and try to rip me a new a** because at least you are giving someone else a break.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 5:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, I can not tell you how i know what the ABI report says, however, you obviously know what i say is true... how did i offend you? you insulted me... and i came back with the very exact remarks you put at me :) you are simply trying to prove that we will hear the rest of the story... when is this? when you file a suit against the pike county sherriffs department? cause we should believe anything you say when your trying to get money and would say anything to get that money, its a shame you are going to use ricky to try and get rich... and you will lie doing it, unless you are telling me right now the ABI lied in the investigation... if thats your point plz tell me.

Posted by place2bhaha (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have to say to disillusioned.....I am right with the God I know exist. And the fact that there are anonymous usernames doesn't mean we are out to hurt you or your family and that we are scared to speak up and be identified. The reason that I remain anonymous is due to the fact that personal opinions can cause turmoil. I speak out on issues and if I felt the need to say my name on this forum I would. But in my line of work, I find it best to speak out without having my name blasted for my opinions! Why would you even care what our real names were? Going to try and find us? Spread it around Pike County what we have said on here? Hold a grudge against us and our families? There isn't a good reason that you would want to know our real names. It's best to use an anonymous name so that things said on here can be left on here. Some opinions and for that matter facts, are more truthful and unbiased when there is NOT a name associated with it.

Posted by bamafan1940 (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sounds like one big old blooded gang of cut thoats

Posted by bamafan1940 (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sounds like one bigc old blooded gang of cut thoats

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

good comment place2bhaha... bamafan, however, your comment speaks for itself.... not even going to respond... LOL

Posted by beaglemom (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anonymity empowers people to say things they normally wouldn't out of fear of censure from their peers. More simply put, it is really easy to make judgements and say cruel things when you are hiding behind a screen name. I question the judgement of your paper for having forum like this which does not seem to be monitored and at least in this case has devolved into a destructive conversation that undermines the community as a whole.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to ask a question I haven't seen anyone ask.
Sherri, you knew there was a warrant for your brother for parole violation, why didn't you go get him or get him to turn himself in? I realize he was outside the city limits but wouldn't your fellow law enforcement would have allowed you to go with them.

Posted by place2bhaha (anonymous) on October 31, 2008 at 11:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

beaglemom .... if you have read any of my comments so far, I have not said anything out of the way. As a matter of fact, I had a reference to the book of Romans in my first comment about judging others. I feel terrible for the family that lost a loved one and I also feel terrible for Henry. But judging them I have not.

Posted by Listentome (anonymous) on November 1, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting question, inaword.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 1, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are a few things here that baffle me. I cannot believe that the officer would shoot with Ricky's mother 2 feet from him.

That just does not make any sense.

Reportedly Ricky had a machete and a knife and approaching at a rapid pace. The only defense the officer had was his gun.

Was Ricky under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time? And if he was not...then why did he not just give himself up? He knew why they were there...and that was to arrest him for a parole violation.

How differently would you have handled this Officer Shackelford and dealing in a non familial scenario?

I am sorry for the loss of a son and brother...but what other alternative would the officer have other than to shoot? I don't beleive that tazing would have helped the situation given the intensity and danger and there would have been no time for that.

I just want to understand things...and perhaps from a similar scenario from your point of view. What would you have done in a situation such as that if you were the arresting officer?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 1, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If it were a stranger that broke into someone's house...but the same scenario...I doubt there would be one person saying anything to the effect that a shooting was "not justified".

And another good point from you "ghost_of_christmas_past" is that other officers were there and their jobs would be on the line if they lied. No other officer is going to twist the truth for another and risk losing his/her own job.

I realize that it has to be devastating to Ricky's family...but the only one that caused this was Ricky himself and he put his parents also in harm's way.

I am also thinking that of course a CSI was done and a "machete" was taken into evidence. Why would anyone have one of those in the house to begin with?

My guess would be to use as a weapon if need be.

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 2, 2008 at 1:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Disillusioned: Yea U Sherry You are a disappointment, that is what disillusioned means. Because why is it that you are an officer of the law, but you helped hide your brother from the law? You should have been in Henry's shoes taking your law breaking brother in yourself. Oh yea but you knew he said he would never go back to jail; As well as your boss knew of this statement Ricky made. Please don't feel sorry for Josh, or Tori. They know their Dad was doing his job, and if he did not do his job, then they would be fatherless. AND I thought you were a real officer of the Law! And as far as ABI, Now who was the ABI Agent out of Montgomery You had an affair with? Mr. G, as well as Yea I know about u and your Boss! So I guess that means No, your not hanging up your badge, But maybe the City Council should do it for you. Yea the truth is out!!

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is ridiculous. I'm sorry but this is absolutely ridiculous. You all are really being hurtful to this family. A lot of things that have been said to these two ladies about them and their brother is cruel. I don't believe this. I don't know them, their brother, the officer, or what happened, but you guys should have more compassion towards this family. You don't have to agree that the officer was in the wrong, but come on now...you all are being just flat out hurtful. It's bad enough that they have seen the comments made about their brother and his behavior. On top of all of that you all are throwing fiery darts at them. Don't do that.

I cannot imagine the pain they are feeling right now. My heart goes out to them. I pray that God will heal and bring peace to their hearts. I've seen a comment that says when we lose a loved one in such a way as this, we want someone to blame. Yes, that is true but come on people, if you realize this, why are you being so mean and purposely inflicted pain? Don't do them like this.

We should be extending our hearts to them. This family has just lost a son and a brother. You don't have to agree with what they feel happened on that day, but don't add to the heartache they are feeling.

@wareaglealways
You should be ashamed of yourself. What are you thinking? There was no cause for you to submit the post you made. She never said she felt sorry for the officers children. She said her heart goes out to them and that they were sweet children. That goes to show you that she has love and compassion for people when terrible things happen. People have those feelings because even though they are not the ones she feels has wronged her and her family, she knows they will be affected by it. When one person hurt...we all hurt...directly or indirectly.

To the Shackleford family:
I pray that God's will be done in your life. I know when it comes to death, just as another post said, there is no closure. However, I do know that forgiveness is the best medicine. People may say this is crazy but I know from experience this may be a time that you know you have to forgive and you don't want to. I had to ask God to forgive someone for me because I felt like she killed someone in my family. I didn't want to forgive her but I knew I had to. Not for her. But for me. Believe it or not, God did exactly what I asked him to do. May you and your family find peace.

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous: Like you said you don't know them,their brother,or the officer, or what happened. It's obvious you don"t, and you have not read all the post made by the brothers family, and the hurtful fiery darts they have thrown at the Cop, Well I know all of them, so I can post my honest opinion and the truths I know. And I AM NOT Ashamed of that. The one thing you wrote about forgivness is the best medcine. I totally agree with that.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 11:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what is there too forgive? Wentland didnt do anything wrong, no forgiveness needed....as for wareagle, i don't think you have anything to be ashamed of, you spoke the truth... sometimes the truth hurts... and the family has been spoken ill of on here because of the stuff they said about the officer and the blame and hurt they are trying to cause the officer so virtuous your entire post was a waste of time if you didnt read all the post before, sorry...

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 12:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Shiftingshadows: When I told VITUOUS the one thing she wrote about forgivness is the best medcine, and I agreed with that,This comment Was more based on a christian belief, as I know Henry loves his God and his God loves him, and walks with him and protects him everyday. The lords prayer "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us".
I've tried not to post a comment, and have just been reading them for almost Two Months now. I knew some people would think I was being heartless toward the Shackleford's,so I held it in for a long time. But enough is enough of them Dogging Officer Wentlands name, He is just as much a victim; and very much loved as well.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@shiftingshadows
I read all of the post and my comment was not a waste of time. Yes, the truth does hurt (sometimes) but it's not always what you say to a person...it's the way and when you say it. The way some to these comments were thrown were thrown out of anger. Do you honestly think the thoughts this family has about the deputy are intentional? Of course they are going to be defensive. They just lost their brother for God's sake. It's called grieving. If it were you, your post would be different. And I still say that you (especially) and some of the other post have been mean and hurtful. But from reading a lot of your other post on other articles, this is just who you are.

@wareaglealways
I am not saying you should be ashamed about knowing the truth about either of these people. You should be ashamed of putting this lady on blast about her personal life which has nothing to do with what happened.

Look people, it's one thing to deal with the untimely death of a loved one but it is totally different when that death has been caused by the hands of someone else. Whether it be intentionally or unintentionally. I'm pretty sure this family, as well as the deputy, has had the "What if's" racing through their minds.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am truly sorry for the Shackelford's loss...I truly am...but the blame lies only with Ricky's actions that night.

He had total disregard for life and the lives around him that included members of his own family. If he did not care about his own mother and father's wellbeing...how and why would he care about the wellbeing of a police officer trying to arrest him? His intent was clear and the officer stopped him.

If Ricky had gotten past those officers with or without any injuries...what next? A man running down the street with a machete putting everyone in harm's way that would try to stop him or anyone in his way. So if Officer Wentland did not stop him...another officer would have stopped him and probably in the same manner.

No one blames the Shackelford family. It was Ricky Shackelford that caused this to happen and no one else.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Bamabunny
I understand exactly what you're saying. You made some valid comments. The point I'm trying to make is this. If this had happened to me, reading your post wouldn't cause me to be as defensive towards anybody. Yes, I may still have my beliefs, but I wouldn't feel as crushed as I would after reading some of the other comments that seem to be more of an attack.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

actually im pretty sure if the shooting was justified by the ABI and then a Grand Jury, id think about it... you know the facts are clear, the family is lying and trying to "hurt" deputy wentland... and virtuous maybe the type of person you are would rather the poor deputy keep being put through pure hell by this family.... they know he isnt at fault yet they keep harassing it... I've been mean because they keep telling me i don't now the facts... when over and over again i would lay the facts out from the ABI report... they can't argue with the ABI report and they havent... they just repeat the same nonsense over and over... and you should be ashamed of yourself virtuous, if you were the family of the deputy and saw what he is being put through your post would be different.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@shiftingshadows
My heart goes out to both sides of this. I can't imagine what the deputy and his family are going through, either. But why would I feel terrible for one side of the coin and not the other, if both sides are affected? I hate to see anybody hurting and I'm pretty sure the deputy feels terrible about what happened. Not to say that he should because something could've been done differently, but because a life was taken at his own hands. No one who loves life or has compassion for human life would do such a thing intentionally. No, I'm not ashamed of myself.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with you "Virtuous".

I believe too that the Shackelford family is grieving the loss of a son and brother. When someone grieves that type of loss...and as with all of us...we tend to remember and grieve the good side of people and the side that made us love that person. Everyone handles grief differently. But before any kind of healing begins...there is always "anger". There are 5 stages of grief...one of which is "anger". No one necessarily goes through those stages one through 5...and we don't even realize at the time that we are going through those stages that come naturally...and no one does it in the same manner.

Keeping aside for one moment what caused this...I can understand the Shackelford family going through their anger stage. I also feel too that in their own hearts they know that Ricky caused this.

I will say this though too that Officer Wentland and family are also feeling "grief". Grief that he took someone's life...though justified...it's not every day that this happens. Even in the role of a Police Officer...many have not had that happen to them during their entire career.

So what I am saying is that I do feel for both sides in this...and I hope through my prayers and yours that both sides can one day start the healing process and go on.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Bamabunny
Maybe I couldn't compose what I wanted to say that it wouldn't be taken out of contex or thought to be pointing the finger at anyone, but I totally agree with what you said. You are absolutely right.

I do believe the Wentland family is struggling with this as well. And contrary to what some may believe, my prayers go out to both families.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Virtuous, i feel bad for both families, however... we were simply saying it was justified til the shackleford family came on here calling the deputy a murderer and saying we are wrong and that it wasnt justified... once they start attacking deputy wentland then ill throw out being nice... why should they be able to attack but we cant defend? a little double standard going on here?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mine too "Virtuous".

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@shiftingshadows
I'll have to stroll back up in a minute; but if memory serves me correctly, there were two family members to post and I don't recall either of them calling him a murderer. I think I remember another post saying something about a child being murdered but I don't think they were a member of the family.

No double standard. I was only saying that in this case, and others like it, we can be a little more mindful and slow to speak towards people. But this is only an opinion board...to each his/her own.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

atleast 3 have posted here... and yes you can have your opinion, i really don't care but the point is Ricky caused his own death and now the ABI and Grand Jury cleared Deputy Wentland of any wrong and the Shacklefords are suing him and the department... thats why they wont tell their side of the story :)

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I saw a third post by "ragin" but he/she didn't mention any relation...so that was my reason for mentioning the only two who did. I'm not saying Deputy Wentland was in the wrong nor am I saying Ricky caused or didn't cause his own death. I am just considering how his family must be feeling after reading some of the comments.

I don't know if the family is suing anybody which is causing them not to reveal what they think/know actually happened. Anyway, I still hope and pray both sides will be at peace.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

they are suing so shhh if you read up at one point sherry told me "if you know so much about this then you know why i cant say anything about our side" .... :)

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like this is going from a pilot light to a bonfire. I just think a suit will hurt both sides in the long run...and re-ignite negative feelings and thoughts from many people.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Earlier..."I believe too that the Shackelford family is grieving the loss of a son and brother. When someone grieves that type of loss...and as with all of us...we tend to remember and grieve the good side of people and the side that made us love that person. Everyone handles grief differently. But before any kind of healing begins...there is always "anger". There are 5 stages of grief...one of which is "anger". No one necessarily goes through those stages one through 5...and we don't even realize at the time that we are going through those stages that come naturally...and no one does it in the same manner."

All I'm saying is I understand the comment posted by another person after reading what I said. I just think we all should take the above pasted post into consideration. Who knows how any of us would react in this situation and...never mind.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Still no reply to my question. Hmmmmm.... I wonder if I should read something into that in its self?.....

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 2:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Virtuous: You have not earned the right to tell me I should be ashamed of putting this lady(Sherry) on blast about her personal life, which you say has nothing to do with what happened. Because you CLAIM to not even know her , nor anything about what happened. So, how is it you can say to me that this has nothing to do with her personal life? First of all I've never considered her a Lady. Believe me her personal life will be only ONE of the reasons her family will lose this lawsuit! The reason you can not stroll back up and see all the hateful comments the Shackleford family left claiming Officer Wentland was a murder is because those post were made on September 8, 2008. So, your about 6 weeks late, you need to know a little more about a situation before you earn the right to just jump in and tell someone they should be ashamed. Officer Wentland has over 20 years in law enforcement, and has never had to take a life. He as well as the other officers at the scene were SET UP. Sherry nor her boss never informed anyone of the comment Ricky made to them "He was not going back to jail"
This was a set up alright... One the Shackleford family made, so they would come out looking like the victim. Easy money for them, LAWSUIT!! Cha Ching..Yea the truth will come out and once again they will be the lossers

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

using a family members death to get rich and hurt other people(deputy wentland and family)... Shackleford family should be ashamed as should virtuous for not knowing the facts before posting.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@wareaglealways/shiftingshadows
I don't know either of these people. I don't know anything about what happened because I wasn't there...I only know what has been released through the media. I'm not here to prove innocence or guilt on either side; but I am able to post "MY OPINION" on this site. You don't have to agree with anything I say because not everyone will agree with what either of us has to say on any given article.

You not considering her as a Lady speaks high volume. Have you not done things in your life that wouldn't exactly deem you to be the man/woman that you know you are? If her personal life is relevant and could be proven as one of the reasons her family loses this alleged lawsuit, then it would've come to the service without you laying it out there. You did it in retaliation...not defense. There's a difference. I don't know you or anything about you other than replying on this board. I don't agree with some of the things you say but I respect you as a person to have your opinion.

You all have taken my comments as if I'm saying Deputy Wentland purposely and intentionally took this mans life. Nothing could be further from the truth. If (and I say if because I don't know him) he's the man that you all say he is; just as you say, the truth will come out(again).

My opinion may not line up with everybody elses, but I'm not ashamed even if you all think I should be. Just as you all are not ashamed just because I think you should be. Although I've thought about what you've said in response to my post, I still don't feel you are right. One thing about me is that I can give my opinion about something (boldly) but I am willing and able to consider the ideas and thoughts of others even if I don't agree. If I still don't agree after thought is given, I know how to agree to disagree about things and move on in peace without getting/being offended.

My posts were not based on facts from any article other than this one. They are still not based on fact even in this article, because I didn't post to the article. I posted to the comments which are only the opinion of how things are, were, and should be about the article.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@ghost_of_christmas_past
:)

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oops...my bad. I meant "come to the surface..not service."

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

um... i just woke up virtuous huh? your comments are not about facts? we could of all told you that...

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You all said my comments shouldn't have been posted because I didn't have all the facts about another article. Like I stated, my comments were based on other comments in this forum...not the article of this forum or any other comments in another forum. You can go back to sleep now. :)

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

its a shame, no one post while im awake! so why arent you posting about facts instead of jumping right in?

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 12:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

shiftingshadows
Im awake, and virtuous says to me"haven't you done things in your life that wouldn't exactley deem me to be the person that I know I am". No I have not done anything in my past to discredit my morals.She seems to think I spoke out of retaliation. She will never get the point that she posted on a forum that has been on going for two months, She just opens her mouth and puts her foot in it.I don't think she likes us.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 12:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lol i dont think she likes us either, im at work sorry :P she knows none of the facts and even admits that, she has not seen the rude and dirty things the family has said... as i said they should be ashamed of themselves using his death for financial gain and to hurt the officer who has already been cleared by the ABI and a grand jury.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@wareaglealways/shiftingshadows
Bless your hearts. I don't know either of you to dislike you. I thought this was just an opinion forum for people to post their opinion. I didn't know we are suppose to draw a conclusion about a person because of them. Wow...aren't you two special?! It is good to know that you have been sin free all of your life. That is a great and wonderful accomplishment.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 6, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i have been sin free my entire life, ive done no wrong :)

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess that allows you to be the first to cast stones...fire away. :)

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oh trust me virtuous i've already started throwing! better get out of the way!

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope you're not throwing boomerangs because they always return to the one who throws them. I'm glad I have my armour on...The helmet of salvation, the breast-plate of righteousness, the girdle of truth, the feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace, the shield of faith and the sword of the spirit. OOoooooh, how sweet it is!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

still, you wouldnt wanna get in the way and get hit by a stray stone.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wouldn't feel it. My armour has me covered.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

are you wearing a facemask?

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If I needed one, it would've been provided. Being that it wasn't...I'm equipped. But you knew that already.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Ghost
But this is so much fun.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 6:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes we can be like the shackleford family and sue someone unjustly.... lets do it!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How about Regis, he said he makes lots and lots of money and doesn't want to share it with anyone ;). And he hurts my feelings.....I'm sensative, you know!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 9:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just caught up on what's going on. So um who's sin free? Never met anyone that was <s>...and never thought there was anyone. Isn't THAT special <s>

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 7, 2008 at 10:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

im throwing stones bama... hey come join in our unjust lawsuits! we are takin peoples money cause we can!!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok I got one. One morning I went to Mickey D's for an egg Mc Muffin. It was 10:15. Breakfast stops at 10:30 in every Mc Donald's right? Well not our's. So how come every Mickey D's in the US stops at 10:30 and our's in Troy Alabama stops at 10:15??

Whatcha think? (the woman with the hot coffee sued and won)

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 12:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

yes... we could say it causes emotional distress and depression when we go to the drive thru and wait all that time just to be told they stopped serving it early! and we feel embarassed when they tell us they arent serving breakfast anymore... soooo we could also collect on pain and suffering!!!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 1:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

do we all just stay up all night watching troy messenger post? gee. we rock.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This was first hand info <s> Was not the drive thru.....was inside at the counter. Of course there were people ahead of me so that made the time eliment that much more critical. Can I sue the woman and kids in front of me too cause I missed the 10:15 deadline?

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just for information sake, some of us just stand in the shadows and watch the rock (and mud) throwing. Be careful what you say; you never know who's listening at the door.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think we should all have lunch and discuss the matters at hand <s>

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL am I buying? Think again oh ghostly person. "Dutch Treat" is on the menu!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

but what about me? do i get to go? I want a free steak! then we can sue because they made me late to work.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh but everyone gets to go. Dutch treat as mentioned. We will go on a day everyone is off. <s>

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, darn. I work nights!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 7:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

me too :(

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 8, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sue John McCain

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at midnight (Suggest removal)

Is everyone off on weekends?

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 12:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi gang. been out of town a few days"business conference " Atlanta. Bamabunny: call Janie or Jeff Stephens about your 10:15 b'fast cut off, 774-4055. They are the owners and would love to hear about the Manager in charge "not doing their job" Oh inaword comment "be careful what u say, never know who's listening" I'm fairly certain before this lawsuite goes to trial they will verify our (anonymous) names just to make sure we are not on the jury.But we could always plead the 5th. It's not like they have us on camera Like O J Simpson. ghost_of_christmas_ past: Yea sue John McCain "he only ownes 7 houses, and is worth several million dollars",Kinda like Bush and his oil rigs, To bad you are not Joe the Plumber. Not to forget you Virtuous:, Wearing your helmet of salvation, the girdle of truth, "That's the point". You claim to not know any of the people involved in this tragedy... But want to blast the ones that do know the people, and speak the truth, Are you even from Pike County?

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 1:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i feel left out, no one said my name in the paragraph! and no bama, im not off on weekends im working alllll the time!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For wareaglealways

I don't know where all this came from but this was humor for us. Getting together for lunch to me is yes serious...but only...and I mean ONLY as a friendly gesture.....and coming from me....thinking it would be nice to meet faces that we agree to disagree with.

I believe that you are taking this much too seriously.

It has nothing at all to do with anyone else actually suing anyone.

Where would this world be without some humor and fun? And now a days we all certainly can use some of that humor.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You still have time for an egg Mc Muffin "wareaglealways"...it's only 9:30 now.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think I need to add one more thing for "wareaglealways". Everything posted here starting from the first post...was certainly not in humor. Everyone expressed their own opinions whether or not it was agreed on or disagreed on. Even you.

Everything was what people felt and to some it was venting. Did you ever even consider that the last few posts in a way calmed this entire scenario?

There was certainly no disrespect purposely aimed toward anyone at all...not even you. So if this gets you upset...then I suggest you take a step back and take a deep breath because you have taken this totally out of context.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"ghost_of_christmas_past" ...maybe we need to get her a slingshot for better aim? Whatcha think?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For "ghost_of_christmas_past"...I'll check the museum. Maybe they can help you out with that armor.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For "ghost_of_christmas_past"

Well I just bet that for today's type of jousting...and the wonders of present day inventions...I just bet that not only today's armor is lighter but also gives consideration for the mature knight of the 21st century. I dare say that the armor is now made with an expanding waist line for that ultimate comfort when one prepares for their "knight's day".

You will also be protected from "shifting" and her rocks if she gets past the crowd gathering to partake in the day's events. <s>

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For "wareaglealways"

When you posted...you insinuated I said by quotes and while addressing me...saying this (copied and pasted from your post)

" 'They are the owners and would love to hear about the Manager in charge 'not doing their job' "

Check back...I NEVER said that at all that any manager did "not do their job".

Think about it.

(insert Jeopardy theme here)

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 5:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

im a guy :( is my throwing that bad??

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 6:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kevlar infused spandex. Hey, we may be on to something!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well ghost_of_christmas_past we aim to please!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Too bad the knights of long ago did not have all this good stuff like spandex and kevlar "inaword". And anyone else taking the ball and running with that idea we can sue them <s>

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ooooops " shiftingshadows".....our mistake. You just kept missing with those rocks <s>

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 7:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

haha ill sue you for emotional distress! :P

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i could sue you for jumping infront of the rocks I throw! it is causing me emotional distress!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I saw that!!!!!!!!!! I'm a witness!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 9:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I will check Fox news. Child killers and molesters in my opinion have not the right to even breath air.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i am going to sue Sheppard Smith of Fox News for attacking Ralph Nader which has caused me Emotional Distress.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 9, 2008 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Texas prisons are so crowded they are releasing prisoners convicted of all crimes early because they are running out of room.

Frankly speaking...I would gladly pay a few dollars more in taxes to build more prisons.

Once a child molester...always a child molester. No treatment or medication other than castration can cure that. They are in a controled environment in prison and many times deemed fit to return to society. Once out of prison though...they don't take their meds and things happen once again.

They even learn to fool the shrinks to get "out". They just tell the doctors what they want to hear.

Let's go to Texas and throw those rocks!

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 12:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bamabunny, oh gosh I knew it had nothing to do with anyone actually suing anyone. so as u suggested i took a step back, sorry u think i took this out of context,"i guess being a business executive"and totally believing in customer service. If you can't get breakfast at Mc D's During breakfast hours It's obvious the Mgr is not doing their job. Can't believe Mc D's cut b'fast off that early The 2 egg McMuffin deal for 2 dollars is a steal. Oh, that bama game with LSU, was great. My slingshoot is stuck, Oh, good my water balloon just landed,...splash your wet

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 2:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

utoh war is shooting water balloons at bama! haha but anyway... So Sheppard Smith might sue Ralph Nader for calling him a bully... obviously it hurt Mr. Smith's sensitive little feelings... in other news, Fox News is being sued by the general public for not having their news anchors pass history class in college... The Ralph Nader incident with Sheppard Smith could of been avoided if Mr. Smith had passed history! burn fox burn!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You know what ghost_of_christmas_past? I have often said that. Let the family at him for justice. He is still walking around breathing and now out of prison breathing. Their precious little girl is gone forever and this so and so has the nerve to "sue" the state. He would not have been in prison at all if he had not done what he did in the first place.

That little girl's father and uncles and his friends need to have a few shots at him.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

if ghost would stop jumping infront of my rocks then id hit the guy!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well "wareaglealways" being a "business executive" you should have known about the statement you quoted being false...be careful...ok?

Just some advice from one former "exec" who traveled all over CONUS to another "exec".

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sheppard Smith has had some major boo boos on air. Let's just sue him for being a dork.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@wareaglealways
Here we go again...it's not that serious...let it go. No, I'm not from Pike County but I've lived in Troy for 15 years.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There was a guy that worked for CNN or Fox years ago that beefed up his resume' stating he was a Colonel that was an "expert on warfare". They made him their war strategist during Desert Storm. They found out later that he was not an officer and never even served during Desert Storm.

Can we sue them for that? <s>

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's do a poll here.

CNN or Fox?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No "ghost_of_christmas_past " you're not a "dork". LOL Dorks don't have fun like this.....dorks take things too seriously.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Bamabunny
You said a mouthful then.

Posted by auburnfan (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Grief!!!!! Now I have a headache and I'm suing all of you...............

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 5:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A few more rocks and I'll have all the landfill I need <s>

Toss those rocks over here "auburnfan".

Hey "shifting"....toss for us ok?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well ghost....hmmm...I always thought that Fox was a bit more balanced but now I'm not that certain.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I used to like Fox til they attacked Nader, oh and until i found out what a scam bill o'riley is... oh and then theres the fact that hes extremely rich but doesn't care about the poor people...

My Vote: CNN

Now lets sue the O'Riley Factor for being Greedy bet we could take that "no spin zone"

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey auburnfan,
How is your uncle doing? He's a great guy. I can just see that big grin on his face Saturday when BAMA beat LSU.Keeping your family in my prayers.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 6:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL ghost_of_christmas_past...funny I was thinking of the exact same thing here...the "longest comment page". GMTA <s>

I'm kind of siding with CNN also "shifting". I remember O'Riley on ABC...but since he went national on FOX...he cops an attitude...or what the kids call a "tude".

Can we sue him for that? The "tude"?

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think we can sue him for claiming the zone has no spin when in reality he goes both ways all the time.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 7:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The only thing spinning is O'Reilley's ego it seems.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 10, 2008 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes his ego is pretty wound up

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 7:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oops bama, why did you jump infront of that rock!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You were supposed to flip the rock remember shifting? Not throw it. You got me right between the eyes!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Put your flags out today everyone!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have an American flag I post outside of my front door on days like this. I also have a 22 foot flag pole with a dusk to dawn light. The pole has the American flag on top...below it an Air Force flag for my veteran daughter (Afghanistan)...an Army streamer for my deceased husband (career Army and a Vietnam vet)and a God bless America streamer.

On days like this...my thoughts and prayers go to all veterans...those that gave the ultimate sacrifice...their loved ones...and for all those serving honorably and that have served honorably.

Without them we would not be able to even voice our own opinions as we do...and experience the freedoms others cannot.

And if no one has ever said this...for "ghost-of-Christmas-past" and every veteran that served...a long over due "THANK YOU"..."WELCOME HOME" and "WE ARE PROUD OF YOU!"

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My pleasure to be able to say it ghost.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 7:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

we should sue showdown...

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Can we sue showdown for being pathetic?

I wonder if he is the former "voice of reason"??? Or has showdown always been around and before me?

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 10:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

he admits hes not lived in troy for a while and yet he claims to know Troy crime hasnt went up :) he just wants to argue...

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Somehow I did not think he was in Troy long and has not lived here long enough to know Troy and the people...yet tries to give the impression he knows everything there is about Troy and everything else.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 11, 2008 at 11:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

on another blog a few weeks ago he said he graduated from troy but has lived in dothan for a while now... he then went on too say how he knew the troy police department was dirty cause his friends tell him so...
he has no clue.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 12:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just stirrin the pot...

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 12:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm in with u ghost_of_christmas_past
I have a few friends with TPD, as well as BPD, and 1/4 of the TPD and Sheriff Department started with BPD. I really do not like him either, and I have never meet a stranger, I get along with most everybody. I don't think showdown has been around long, just long enough to be a criminal. He just has not been caught yet

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 1:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For "shiftingshadows"

Graduated from 8th grade maybe in Troy? <s>

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 1:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And recently? <s>

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 2:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i was thinking more of 6th grade, his "education" is about even with jethro on beverly hillbillies

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 4:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And only took 4 tries!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 6:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a wonderful post on the other story...

"Posted by stickam (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 6:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO MARSH FAMILY.ALSO WE WILL PRAY FOR "SHOWDOWN2"...."

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys crack me up! LOL

I was thinking Jethro from the "Beverly Hillbilles" too "shifting".......but your post about "4 tries" made me lose it here LOL

Notice that the other comments were disabled on the "murder suspect" page?

Gee I wonder why???

You'd think that showdown would learn something from that.

Yes ghost you are right...he needs prayer and he needs all the help he can get from the man upstairs...because He is the only one that can help showdown...because no one here can do it.

Meantime let's have shifting throw a few rocks at him ok?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oooooooooooo back up.......the comments are back again but some of showdown's are missing <s>

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

maybe we should suggest they remove every single post showdown makes :D if 5 of us did i wonder what they'd do... but yep, the utter nonsense that spews from this kids mouth is amazing.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 5:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shifting? Do you know how old he is?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 7:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If we asked for all of his posts to be removed...then he would really have something to talk about..."violation of free speech".

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

not really, freedom of speech ends when he signed up and agreed not to violate the agreement with troy messenger....

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 12, 2008 at 10:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are very correct shifting shadows....I forgot about that. Some lawyer I'd make huh?

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 13, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

thats why im here, ill be our lawyer! jk!! :P

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 13, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL ok you can be the lawyer <s> Better hide those rocks then.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 13, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

yep you can throw them since i throw like a girl anyway :P i better go find a suit!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 13, 2008 at 5:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

virtuous and showdown must be related... they find ways to bail each other out, constantly.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 13, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmmmmm could be related or the same guy.

When can I make an appointment for some legal counsel? I think I wanna sue someone.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 14, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

right now, who are we considering suing?

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 14, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gee you people stopped posting here :( i thought we were going for the record...

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 14, 2008 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

haha yeah that would get all of us going

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 15, 2008 at 7:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Its so nice in here without him, why spoil it

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 15, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Seriously though....has anyone heard further about an actual suit in the Shackelford case?

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 15, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Haven't heard anything yet. Maybe it was just someone venting her frustrations. Could be hard to get a lawyer to take such a thin case. The facts don't change just because you want them to.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 15, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

honest mistake

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 17, 2008 at 12:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

maybe the shackelfords will do the smart and moral thing and drop their lawsuit, i mean seriously... why drag this out anymore? if they do its simply for money...

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 17, 2008 at 6:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It can't be for money, there is no way they could win, so the only thing it might do is try to embarrass the sheriffs office. Not to mention cost everyone involved money they don't have to waste on something like that.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 18, 2008 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I aggree "inaword"....there is no way the Shackelfords could win a law suit. But people do many things out of anger and pain and don't think of those things as in this case.

This entire thing could have had a different outcome if Ricky had just given up.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 18, 2008 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Taking into consideration that Ricky's past is part of this case...there is no way that can avoid being brought into evidence. It's clear motive for what he did.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 19, 2008 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Didn't know where everybody was.
@shifting
I don't know who Showdown2 is.
@bamabunny
I can assure you. We are not the same person.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 19, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Glad to hear that virtuous.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 19, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

me too

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 20, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

im glad we have that straightened out now virtuous! now back to my bamabunny vs mcdonalds case! Lots of paperwork!

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 20, 2008 at 8:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Do i smell a lawsuit?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 21, 2008 at 12:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For shifting shadows...

Ok what have we got so far with Macs?

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 21, 2008 at 2:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey auburnfan,
Have not seen a post in 11 days, Hope everything is good with your family, can't believe Auburn lost their game to Georgia. I love your uncle dearly, but he knows I'm looking for a seventh win this year. Just tell him War Eagle from Doodle Bug!! Your family is awesome, and I loved your Granny Jean dearly.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 21, 2008 at 7:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sure they have a couple million just lying around with your name on it...

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 21, 2008 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ROFL @ghost_of_Christmas_past...You crack me up!

Like the woman that sued because of her coffee being too hot that landed in her lap while driving...her scars have healed.

BUT...the emotional stress of being deprived will stay with you ghost...I therefore feel that this trauma has caused tremendous emotional upset with you and will probably stay with you and scar you for a life time! That ice cream machine being out of order is from no fault of yours!

I do believe you have just cause to be compensated!

BTW...coming back from Montgomery airport this morning at 6:30am gave me ample opportunity to have that egg McMuffin and hash browns combo! Twas a good morning in Troy!

^5

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 22, 2008 at 2:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

haha thats funny... we should all get a class act suit against McDonalds... but really i truely believe the woman with the coffee had a good reason to sue... the coffee was almost double the heat it should have been... after just seven seconds of contact with her skin it burned completely too the bone destroying tissue and muscle... think if she had took a big gulp... since then they have made laws of how hot the coffee can be... it should never have been that hot... and she even tried to settle out of court for the cost of the skin graph.. woulda been about 30,000 dollars... McDonalds refused and ended up paying almost a million... good job executives making decisions!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 22, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can we do both at the same time? ghost for the icecream and me for the time element for breakfast?

At the time I had my 89 year old mother with me who was also disappointed! At 89 I think mom was more traumatized than I. That should bring in another million.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 22, 2008 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can tell you...she was devastated! She started to hyperventilate! We had to call paramedics to sedate her!

Her fragile little body could not take the disappointment...and because of it...she had to give up her apartment and come live with me!

I even had to re route driving patterns so we did not go past Mickey D's for fear of relapse!!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 23, 2008 at 1:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You mean "Mc Billions" right ghost?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 23, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just plain "fries". No "French" fries. "American" fries.

I can feel the trauma easing up already!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 23, 2008 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow im going to love the payoff at the end of this lawsuit... as lawyer im taking 40% of all the winnings!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 5:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

inaword said poor people dont have any business in a hotel... im offended, anyone wanna jump on this lawsuits bandwagon?

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

40% wow! That only leaves 30% each for ghost and I. If it's a sure win I guess so. :0)

I need to ponder this over an egg Mc Muffin this morning.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Recon mission a success and done at the drive thru at Mickey D's.

Could not chance a 10:15 time element...so mission was completed at 10:01 upon returning from Regional x ray department.

The Mc D surveillance cameras did not detect my presence. (wearing sunglasses)

Report will be submitted entitled "Mc Muffin-gate" and classified.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

9:am on 11/24 I arrived at Troy Regional for a Radiology appointment. A clever roose to throw the Mc Meanies off.

9:53...I entered the Mickey D's drive thru.

10:01...I pulled to the ordering speaker. Carefully I examined the speaker and structure. Nothing seemed out of place...and no sign of surveillance cameras. I ordered a sausage Mc Muffin with egg and cheese with a small oj.

10:05...I cautiously moved to the payment window. A smiling face appeared. Obviously a plant by the Mc Meanies. She asked me "how I was doing?" (Must be some kind of Mc Code)I smiled reluctantly and managed to tell her "fine...thank you." Fearing the worst but to keep this "plant" at bay...I asked "and how are you?" She answered "fine". (I must crack this code.)I handed her a 5 dollar bill. She gave me change. I needed to leave that window before I was recognized.

10:07...one car in front of me and one behind me. They're closing in...stay calm!!!!

10:09...the car in front of me drove off from the delivery window. I could see the suspicious looking man behind me in my rear view mirror. I had to move with extreme caution.

10:10...my Mc Breakfast was handed to me...by another smiling person!!!! Fear engulfed me!!! I grabbed the bag and cup of oj and fled the scene.

10:12...the corner of 231 and 87 was backed up with traffic. A well planned cover up. If I was to make it home alive I had to be as inconspicuous as possible. It was not hard because all drivers were a bit irritated.

10:17...on my way home only to find a woman walking her dog on my lawn. A clear message that they did not like my Mc Intrusion!!!

Reports to follow in a few days and when I feel the heat cooling.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@ Bamabunny
"10:01...I pulled to the ordering speaker. Carefully I examined the speaker and structure. Nothing seemed out of place...and no sign of surveillance cameras. "

I believe my co-workers think I have just lost it. :) LOL!!! They've suspected it all along; but you made me blow my cover. That is tooooooo funny! Gotta love it!!!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For virtuous....shhhhhhhhhhhhh they'll never know unless you tell them.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 6:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I must carefully lock and close all blinds on my windows. Sophisticated visual and audio recording devices are abound in this era of non privacy.

I must use classical music as a roose to disengage all thoughts of documentation. Young minds and the minds of my Mc Tormentors will abandon all recording efforts if the sounds of Beethoven and Mozart fill the air with sweet classical music.

Yes ghost! BK must be investigated. Perhaps my mother would agree to be a "BK Buffer". At her tender age...she will never be suspect! We can use her as a "plant" pretending to be a customer. She will soak up info like a thirsty sponge! They will never know she is one of us. She has been briefed to say nothing...just to smile that sweet smile of her's...while her blue bouffant wig houses tiny audeo and video equipment.

More to come but rest assured I will sleep with only one eye shut with my trusty weapon...the "Frying Pan"!
The "BK's" and the "Mc Meanies" will turn and run to their grills as does a vampire sniffing garlic!

And so it goes.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shiftingshadows: I'm suing for slander! I never said that! You took what I said and twisted it! I'll settle out of court for a Mc-apology.

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 24, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

inaword, you want some fries with that?

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 25, 2008 at 6:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can I substitute a salad?

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 25, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@ghost

Of course I'm a friendly.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 25, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have devised my Mc Frying Pan to fold and fit a holster that is well concealed under my jacket. When and if the situation calls for it...I will "draw" with swiftness and accuracy thereby fending off all Mc Meanies and BK Meanies as would a gunslinger from the old west being chased by a posse.

Mom had a rough night with surveillance at BK's. She fell asleep and her "bouffant" shifted. Camera and audeo equipment failed and she woke up in the midst of the local nursing home. She refused to give info about her mission...but I must go and bail her out while at the same time being careful by not exposing my real Mc Self.

Meantime...virtuous can check out the salad bar. Don't forget the sunglasses!

A new strategy is in the works.

Fear not Mc Comrades...truth and justice WILL prevail!

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 25, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My investigation reveals results far greater than I ever thought. The culprits no longer have salad bars. I thought this to be odd being that they serve salads. I couldn't get a direct and satisfactory answer from management so I was forced to call in the big guns. My friends from "Veggie Tales" assisted me by speaking with the vegetables. I should have a full report on my desk in the morning.

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 25, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sunglasses....Check

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on November 25, 2008 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tell me what the salad says about why hardees doesnt offer bacon chedder fries anymore... they only offer chili cheese fries... ew! its all an evil plan!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 25, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For ghost...

Yes she wore her sunglasses but when she fell asleep they got tangled in her blue bouffant wig. They fell to the floor and got stepped on. The "plants" that we put inside of "Mickey D's" got her out with very little commotion. Her shift was midnight to 6am and very few customers there at the time.

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 25, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PS

I'm glad the glasses were stepped on. They were her sparkly ones that attracted attention. They have met a proper demise.

Posted by wareaglealways (anonymous) on November 26, 2008 at 1:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

auburnfan, I'm hanging in here, hoping to hear from U. Hoping things are good with your family. Prayers always!!

Posted by Bamabunny (anonymous) on November 26, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have received a truce offered by the Mc Meanies until after Thanksgiving. However it was in code. My mother was up all night breaking these symbols.

From what we gather it says...

"Happy Thanksgiving to all"!

☺ {É’|ï9Ý ‘}ÛÝÁÖ{ «a╤₧)]♀╓ ♥

Posted by Virtuous (anonymous) on November 26, 2008 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The official transcript from Mc Salad:

And I quote...

"It all started when the lettuce went on strike because it was no longer the head but the tail. I have frostbite tomatoes (to ma toes). Cucumber was being stripped of her outer layer; therefore, leaving her without proper dressing. A beaming light was abducting Velveeta every time we heard, “Say Cheese”. They have all fled into eggsile (exile). Meat refused to talk to me because he no longer has a backbone. It’s awful, I tell you. Mc Meanies are destroying us. We need your help.”

There you have it folks.

Posted by inaword (anonymous) on November 26, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Guess thats it in a (wal)nut shell!

Posted by shiftingshadows (anonymous) on January 7, 2009 at 6:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you guys slacked off...

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